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  • Originally posted by Scrub View Post

    I might be mistaken, but I believe Greely merely hung it up after that season. I never saw him surface anywhere else after that. I could be wrong through--I admit to not searching that hard for the travels of Nick Greely. LOL
    I hear you. That would be an interesting read about "what happened to..." of WLU players that transfered (or that committed and backed out). Obviously we know about Bolon and Robinson and Yoakum, but what about other players who transfered in search of glory? Did they find it at their new school? I don't have the time anymore to research something like that but it would be an interesting read!

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    • Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post

      That guy was an offensive machine. Projecting his offense to 40 minutes yielded about 47 points per game. But his opponent would probably score 55. Lol. Near zero defensive fundamentals were learned growing up. Sad, given his skills.
      As I said when I THOUGHT I was talking about Hill, I seem to remember him never seeing a shot he could pass-up. Yea, he certainly had the ability to make a lot of them, but it wasn't really the ball movement offense WLU runs! Takes a lot of boneheadedness to wear out your welcome after 12 games particularly when you are a gifted scorer, like he was. I would think that if a scorer like him just listened and tried to execute what Ben and company were telling him about defense and ball movement, they would have kept him around for at least the full season.

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      • No one compares to the legend Chucky Humphries

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        • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

          It was Ariel Watson. Much of his WLU "career" has been stricken...His name has been removed from the 2018-19 roster, his player profile has been scrubbed and you can't get any game to game information without going into the individual game box scores. Watson was a NJCAA All-American. Played 12 games and was sumerarily bounced from the team. Interesting that his recruiting class consisted of Nick Greely, Yalee Hill and Jon Alessandro. Three of the four were gone by the start of their second season and Alessandro was gone by the start of the next season.
          I don't worry about transfers. There is no shortage of players longing to play for wlu
          For example:

          2019-20 Out In
          Greely. Butler
          Hill. McKinney
          Watson. Robinson III

          2020-2021 Out. In

          Alessandro. Sarson


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          • Originally posted by Layton View Post
            No one compares to the legend Chucky Humphries
            Crutch spoke at sports banquet at his hs. No hard feelings here. Only heard good things about him.
            Glad he wound up at a premier program in IUP.

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            • Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
              Crutch spoke at sports banquet at his hs. No hard feelings here. Only heard good things about him.
              Glad he wound up at a premier program in IUP.
              Must’ve forgot he ended up there. He took a lot out of poor Boat

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              • Bryce Butler named d2cca 1st team All American!
                https://hilltoppersports.com/news/20...-american.aspx

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                • We make the final four and nothing acknowledging it on the basketball social medias. Yikes!

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                  • Elite 8 WLU vs New Haven
                    WLU Offense
                    • WLU was above average at offensive rating at 132 points per 100 possessions – elite
                    • WLU had assists on 78% of made FGs while UNH was 48%, as they relied on 1-on-1 play
                    • Surprisingly, WLU won the offensive rebounding battle 12-9.
                    • WLU Effective FG % of 63% well above their average of 56%, compared to a slightly below average 51% for UNH
                    WLU Defense
                    • WLU shutdown UNH on defense – limiting offensive rating to 81 points per 100 possessions, well below their average of 106. When one falls below 95, it is very difficult to win.
                    • WLU forced 26 turnovers, well above their average of 19 forced turnovers
                    • WLU forced many dead ball turnovers due to errant passes by UNH; imho a combination of pressure and cognitive fatigue.
                    • They limited 7-1 center Majur to 4 points – not a factor offensively
                    Statistic West Liberty Season New Haven Season West Liberty Elite 8 3/21/23 New Haven Elite 8 3/21/23
                    FGM 1237 836 36 23
                    FGA 2495 1815 70 49
                    FTA 679 454 9 12
                    Three Point FGM 423 237 16 4
                    three Point FGA 1110 712 36 14
                    OFF REB 433 240 12 9
                    Assists 753 396 28 11
                    Turnovers 390 348 10 26
                    Steals 367 170 10 6
                    Turnovers Forced 651 314 26 10
                    Points 3404 2254 95 58
                    Games Played 34 33 1 1
                    Number of Possessions 2751 2123 72 71
                    Avg. Possessions per Game 81 64 72 71
                    Pts per Possession 1.24 1.06 1.32 0.81
                    Offensive Rating - pts/100 possessions 124 106 132 81
                    Shooting Efficiency (FGM +0.5*3ptFGM)/FGA 58.1% 52.6% 62.9% 51.0%
                    Turnover % 14.2% 16.4% 13.9% 36.5%
                    Forced Turnovers per Game 19.1 9.5 26.0 10.0
                    Percent Forced Live Ball Turnovers 56.4% 54.1% 38.5% 60.0%
                    Assists % of FG Made 60.9% 47.4% 77.8% 47.8%
                    Assist to Turnover Ratio 1.93 1.14 2.80 0.42

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                    • Observations from a Dummy - Final four WLU vs Black Hills State Univ

                      BHSU was very well coached, with last year’s national player of the year and an all-region player.
                      IMHO BHSU could have won
                      • with better foul shooting
                      • more focus on getting ball to Scott inside in the first half.
                      • Keeping Scott inside on defense and sending another player to guard our center in the corner
                      WLU could have won by more if:
                      • Reduced missing shots at the rim that we usually make
                      • Average FT %
                      • Butler did not have to leave due to injury (nose) late in the game.
                      WLU Offense
                      • WLU was below average offensively at 116 points per possession (average is 124), which is still better than nearly all teams. It was primarily due to:
                        • Poor FT % of 55% versus average of 74%
                        • BHSU did a great job in limiting 3 pt shots to 20 (below average of 36)
                      • Assists were below average due to BHSU defensive strategy to stop kick out for 3-point shot.
                        • WLU put center in corner for three which drew Scott away from basket – advantage of positionless basketball. This left large gaps in the lane for dribble drive.
                        • BHSU did not have guards who could stay in front of our guards so the lane was open for dribble penetration
                      • BHSU limited WLU to 53% effective shooting % (avg 58%) due to denial of 3 pt shots and some missing easy shots at the rim.
                      • WLU took amazing care of the ball, with turnovers on only 7% of possessions. 15% is a very good number (BHSU had 16%).
                      WLU Defense
                      • BHSU has elite offensive efficiency of 115 pts per 100 possessions. WLU held them to 106, despite the fact Scott was nearly unstoppable in the second half and we gave up many needless and-ones.
                      • WLU limited BHSU 2 pt shooting % to 44% (average of 59%), but more importantly held their shooting efficiency to 50% (Average of 59%)
                      Statistic West Liberty Season BHSU Season BHSU Final Four 3/23/23 West Liberty Final Four 3/23/23
                      FGM 1273 1009 27 32
                      FGA 2565 2009 64 66
                      FTM 514 392 18 16
                      FTA 688 533 29 29
                      Three Point FGM 439 348 10 7
                      three Point FGA 1146 881 25 20
                      OFF REB 445 221 12 9
                      Assists 781 484 15 13
                      Turnovers 400 386 12 5
                      Steals 377 182 0 7
                      Turnovers Forced 677 354 5 12
                      Points 3499 2758 82 87
                      Games Played 35 34 1 1
                      Number of Possessions 2823 2409 77 75
                      Avg. Possessions per Game 81 71 77 75
                      Pts per Possession 1.24 1.15 1.07 1.16
                      Offensive Rating - pts/100 possessions 124 115 107 116
                      Shooting Efficiency (FGM +0.5*3ptFGM)/FGA 58.2% 58.9% 50.0% 53.8%
                      FT % 74.7% 73.5% 62.1% 55.2%
                      3PT% 38.3% 39.5% 40.0% 35.0%
                      2PT% 58.8% 58.6% 43.6% 54.3%
                      Turnovers Per Game 11.4 11.4 12.0 5.0
                      Turnover % 14.2% 16.0% 15.6% 6.7%
                      Forced Turnovers per Game 19.3 10.4 5.0 12.0
                      Percent Forced Live Ball Turnovers 55.7% 51.4% 0.0% 58.3%
                      Assists % of FG Made 61.4% 48.0% 55.6% 40.6%
                      Assist to Turnover Ratio 1.95 1.25 1.25 2.60

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                      • Season Stat Comparison WLU and Nova SE
                        So many stats are very close.
                        Statistic West Liberty Season Nova SE Season
                        FGM 1305 1304
                        FGA 2631 2568
                        FTM 530 614
                        FTA 717 800
                        Three Point FGM 446 356
                        three Point FGA 1166 893
                        OFF REB 454 484
                        Assists 794 753
                        Turnovers 405 438
                        Steals 384 427
                        Turnovers Forced 689 801
                        Points 3586 3578
                        Games Played 36 35
                        Number of Possessions 2897 2874
                        Avg. Possessions per Game 80 82
                        Pts per Possession 1.24 1.24
                        Offensive Rating - pts/100 possessions 124 124
                        Shooting Efficiency (FGM +0.5*3ptFGM)/FGA 58.1% 57.7%
                        FT % 73.9% 76.8%
                        3PT% 38.3% 39.9%
                        2PT% 58.6% 56.6%
                        Turnovers Per Game 11.3 12.5
                        Turnover % 14.0% 15.2%

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                        • "Guard our Center in the corner" ??? I wasn't aware we had a Center! Maybe you ment "guard one of our guards in the corner"!?

                          At the end of the day, we lucked out in that Black Hills didn't figure out how to truly use Scott till the second half. We truly had no answer for him inside. At one point we had a 6'2" guard trying to front him with another 6' guard doubling down on him...didn't turn out too well for us.

                          But as they say in tourney play, I'd rather be lucky than good. We got lucky and are in the NC game.

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                          • Don’t see this going our way

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                            • Going to have to change up our press if we want to win this

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                              • Amazing Crutch is still in D2

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