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  • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    And, Armoni was still in with a 90 seconds to go.

    Unless it leaks we may not know for awhile. No games this week.

    Remember, Armoni got carried off at Illinois with what turned out to be nothing serious.

    But, this would be devastating to the season.

    Going from the D2 leading scorer to one of our freshmen guards is, well, not good.

    "Going from the D2 leading scorer to one of our freshmen guards is, well, not good."

    Uh, yeah. We know all about something like that at Ship so far this season. Hope your guy is OK.

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      • The Gazette is calling Shawndale's knee injury ... "what appears to be a very significant injury"


        The article didn't officially say anything ... said still awaiting yesterday's test results.


        But, doesn't sound good.


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        • I have to agree with you. It was 80-53 with 9 minutes left. If your bench can't hold a 27 point lead that is a problem in itself. Yeah, WCU was still playing hard, but they also couldn't hit the side of a barn with most of their shots.

          Regardless, it happened. Now, IUP has to deal with the aftermath.

          They're not going to be near the same team without Shawndale. There is no 'next man up' that comes close to him. So, all the coaching cliches aside, ... Joe probably has to get creative.

          I would go with a 'big' starting lineup of: Demo, Suliaman, Porterfield, Morris and Armoni.

          Reason being: Demo is essentially a G/F and is athletic enough to make the transition. Could you elevate either Polce or Radford to start? Probably. But, one is good at offense and one is good at defense.

          The issue with that lineup is Suliaman may foul out by halftime of most games. So, him and Diop would have to be essentially co-starters.

          Looking down the deep bench, Cordon and Rhodes aren't ready.

          So, that leaves you with the option of burning the redshirts of true freshmen Dallis Dillard and Damir Brooks. Both would be playing right now for many programs. Hate to burn the redshirts but they've only played 7 games ... so, it's not like burning them on Game 24.

          The only other option -- and, it's pretty rare -- is to explore a mid-year transfer. Bryce Laskey (formerly of St. Francis) is still available. There are guys out there.

          There is still the faint hope these tests come back well but a Plan B obviously has to be in the works.

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          • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

            I have to agree with you. It was 80-53 with 9 minutes left. If your bench can't hold a 27 point lead that is a problem in itself. Yeah, WCU was still playing hard, but they also couldn't hit the side of a barn with most of their shots.

            Regardless, it happened. Now, IUP has to deal with the aftermath.

            They're not going to be near the same team without Shawndale. There is no 'next man up' that comes close to him. So, all the coaching cliches aside, ... Joe probably has to get creative.

            I would go with a 'big' starting lineup of: Demo, Suliaman, Porterfield, Morris and Armoni.

            Reason being: Demo is essentially a G/F and is athletic enough to make the transition. Could you elevate either Polce or Radford to start? Probably. But, one is good at offense and one is good at defense.

            The issue with that lineup is Suliaman may foul out by halftime of most games. So, him and Diop would have to be essentially co-starters.

            Looking down the deep bench, Cordon and Rhodes aren't ready.

            So, that leaves you with the option of burning the redshirts of true freshmen Dallis Dillard and Damir Brooks. Both would be playing right now for many programs. Hate to burn the redshirts but they've only played 7 games ... so, it's not like burning them on Game 24.

            The only other option -- and, it's pretty rare -- is to explore a mid-year transfer. Bryce Laskey (formerly of St. Francis) is still available. There are guys out there.

            There is still the faint hope these tests come back well but a Plan B obviously has to be in the works.
            Joe Doesn't usually get too tricky, I think it will basically be Radford playing a bunch more minutes, and hope that he improves defensively.


            Its ashame for Shawndale, as he had a great season going. Hoping for him he can comeback in a couple weeks.

            As far as should he have been playing, This isn't football where you are taking more hits when you are playing. Game play is more intense, but not so much more dangerous that your odds of getting hurt are that much higher than practive. The number of minutes these guys play and practice an extra 5 minutes one way or another I don't think made it more likely for him to be injured. Its sort of like when your playing Blackjack, and the guy before you hits an 18, draws a 10, and your sitting there with a 10. Your odds are really still the same, but it sure doesn't feel like it.

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            • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

              I have to agree with you. It was 80-53 with 9 minutes left. If your bench can't hold a 27 point lead that is a problem in itself. Yeah, WCU was still playing hard, but they also couldn't hit the side of a barn with most of their shots.

              Regardless, it happened. Now, IUP has to deal with the aftermath.

              They're not going to be near the same team without Shawndale. There is no 'next man up' that comes close to him. So, all the coaching cliches aside, ... Joe probably has to get creative.

              I would go with a 'big' starting lineup of: Demo, Suliaman, Porterfield, Morris and Armoni.

              Reason being: Demo is essentially a G/F and is athletic enough to make the transition. Could you elevate either Polce or Radford to start? Probably. But, one is good at offense and one is good at defense.

              The issue with that lineup is Suliaman may foul out by halftime of most games. So, him and Diop would have to be essentially co-starters.

              Looking down the deep bench, Cordon and Rhodes aren't ready.

              So, that leaves you with the option of burning the redshirts of true freshmen Dallis Dillard and Damir Brooks. Both would be playing right now for many programs. Hate to burn the redshirts but they've only played 7 games ... so, it's not like burning them on Game 24.

              The only other option -- and, it's pretty rare -- is to explore a mid-year transfer. Bryce Laskey (formerly of St. Francis) is still available. There are guys out there.

              There is still the faint hope these tests come back well but a Plan B obviously has to be in the works.

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              • You likely can't empty the whole bench with 9 minutes but you have to protect your superstars. This has been an issue with Joe on this board for a long time.

                Armoni was still in with a minute on the clock. That's just being foolish ... especially after what just happened.

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                • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                  You likely can't empty the whole bench with 9 minutes but you have to protect your superstars. This has been an issue with Joe on this board for a long time.

                  Armoni was still in with a minute on the clock. That's just being foolish ... especially after what just happened.

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                  • Stars play and stars get hurt playing BUT... you can't put your stars in harms way! You're up 30 you keep a constant rotation getting those stars off the court! Joe did not do that and hasn't done that for years! This is a big flaw of Joe's, PERIOD!!!

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                    • Originally posted by IUPalum View Post

                      Stars play and stars get hurt playing BUT... you can't put your stars in harms way! You're up 30 you keep a constant rotation getting those stars off the court! Joe did not do that and hasn't done that for years! This is a big flaw of Joe's, PERIOD!!!

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                          • From Joe's radio show ... nothing official but he said it could be an ACL tear. The MRI results aren't back yet.

                            He did say Shawndale is under the limit for a medical redshirt. They've played 25% of schedule. To qualify for the MR you have to be under 30%.

                            He said Bryce will likely step in to the open spot and that the offense will change (slow down). He said they'll probably go back to a 70-80 ppg team rather than a 95.

                            So, it doesn't sound good.

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                            • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                              From Joe's radio show ... nothing official but he said it could be an ACL tear. The MRI results aren't back yet.

                              He did say Shawndale is under the limit for a medical redshirt. They've played 25% of schedule. To qualify for the MR you have to be under 30%.

                              He said Bryce will likely step in to the open spot and that the offense will change (slow down). He said they'll probably go back to a 70-80 ppg team rather than a 95.

                              So, it doesn't sound good.

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