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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
I don't necessarily think it's anything about West Liberty. I think he's just trying to recruit the best players he can - like every team. How does that make what they're doing any different than anybody else? Teams in the PSAC are just better than they were 5, 7, and 10 years ago. IUP was a great PSAC team, but didn't necessarily have the makeup every year to be a true regional title contender. They were built to play more with teams in their own league. Joe Lombardi started a trend in the league where he started building "hybrid" type teams that could play with Gannon and Slippery Rock, but also be capable of putting up points against an MEC team while also staying within the controlled offense and structured defensive game plans.
IUP was just the first team to change their roster makeup. In 2014, they should have beaten West Liberty about three separate times. In 2015, they did. Shippensburg is built nearly identical to IUP. West Chester and Kutztown have progressively gotten much better at this too. Both of those teams are typically very balanced between the types of players they have. While Mercyhurst is the running joke about their style of play, watch their games sometime. Those guys can play offense if they have to (as you found out last year). East Stroud plays like an MEC team already.
Sometimes I think you guys on the West Liberty side try to overthink and over analyze these things. Teams are just much better than they were a couple years ago.
Other regions may be more top-heavy or have more brand recognition, but I've long stated that I don't think there's a better region top to bottom than the Atlantic.
And I 100% agree that this is a very deep & talented region (despite some lack of name recognition that comes with those Midwestern regions).
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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
I don't necessarily think it's anything about West Liberty. I think he's just trying to recruit the best players he can - like every team. How does that make what they're doing any different than anybody else? Teams in the PSAC are just better than they were 5, 7, and 10 years ago. IUP was a great PSAC team, but didn't necessarily have the makeup every year to be a true regional title contender. They were built to play more with teams in their own league. Joe Lombardi started a trend in the league where he started building "hybrid" type teams that could play with Gannon and Slippery Rock, but also be capable of putting up points against an MEC team while also staying within the controlled offense and structured defensive game plans.
IUP was just the first team to change their roster makeup. In 2014, they should have beaten West Liberty about three separate times. In 2015, they did. Shippensburg is built nearly identical to IUP. West Chester and Kutztown have progressively gotten much better at this too. Both of those teams are typically very balanced between the types of players they have. While Mercyhurst is the running joke about their style of play, watch their games sometime. Those guys can play offense if they have to (as you found out last year). East Stroud plays like an MEC team already.
Sometimes I think you guys on the West Liberty side try to overthink and over analyze these things. Teams are just much better than they were a couple years ago.
Other regions may be more top-heavy or have more brand recognition, but I've long stated that I don't think there's a better region top to bottom than the Atlantic.Last edited by Ship69; 02-29-2020, 05:40 PM.
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Originally posted by Scrub View Post
You're absolutely right that they're not sneaking up on anyone anymore. There's certainly a playbook out there on how to beat them and/or at least compete with them.
It leads me to wonder if that explains why Howlett has been recruiting more athletic players in the past few years. If the system itself is no longer enough to shock teams (like it seemed to be in that run of years when they won 3 straight regional titles), then you need to recruit more than just "system players." Thinking back over Crutch's teams in the early part of this run, he rarely had guys with the athletic ability and one-on-one, beat-your-man ability of guys like Robinson & McKinney. Yes, there were some--Alex Falk, Corey Pelle, Cedric Harris--but it does seem like Crutch relied on the system working (and therefore simply needed to find guys who fit the system). Guys like Wolosinczuk, Morrow, Shetzer, Fortney, Grossenbacher, etc. were perfect for Crutch's system. But those were not guys who could win a one-on-one battle with a defender if the system had been frustrated. I'm just spitballing a bit here, but it certainly seems as though Howlett recognizes the need to rely not merely on the system. System first, which will win most games. But in a game where the system is being frustrated, it becomes more possible that a guy like Robinson can take over the game by getting in the lane and causing havoc of his own. I wonder if that is Howlett's answer to the fact that the top teams in the region are no longer fearing the system. Again, just spitballing a bit.
IUP was just the first team to change their roster makeup. In 2014, they should have beaten West Liberty about three separate times. In 2015, they did. Shippensburg is built nearly identical to IUP. West Chester and Kutztown have progressively gotten much better at this too. Both of those teams are typically very balanced between the types of players they have. While Mercyhurst is the running joke about their style of play, watch their games sometime. Those guys can play offense if they have to (as you found out last year). East Stroud plays like an MEC team already.
Sometimes I think you guys on the West Liberty side try to overthink and over analyze these things. Teams are just much better than they were a couple years ago.
Other regions may be more top-heavy or have more brand recognition, but I've long stated that I don't think there's a better region top to bottom than the Atlantic.
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Was really hoping they'd lose a hard fought game. Cal gonna be out for blood Monday... not what Gannon needs.
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Boro wins! Dancing in the streets in southern Erie County! The streak is over! No 0 for the West! Coleman 39 on 15/32. Staunch 28 points and scored 19 rebounds.
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Broadcast said it was a senior player (I assume for Cal). I didn't know the name. They took him out on a stretcher.
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Edinboro up 46-32 at half in Greensburg. Coleman has 22. Staunch has a double-double. Scots getting hot at the right time.
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Cal vs Gannon game delayed. Player injured during dunk in pregame. Sounds fairly serious.
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