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  • #46
    Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

    Originally posted by wsuguy87 View Post
    The measure likely doesn't take head-to-head into account. Minot has a better in-region win percentage and fewer losses (only by 1). If I had to guess, that's why.
    These rankings are entirely by the Performance Indicator (PI) number. The formula used takes into account the record of the opponents played. It divides teams into 4 different tiers (above 75% winning percentage, 50%-74%, 25%-49%, and under 25%) and then assigns a number of points based on which tier each of your past opponents are currently in, where the game was played (home, road, or neutral), and whether you won or lost.

    So, for example, beating a team with an above 75% winning percentage on the road is worth a ton of points, while losing to an under 25% team at home is worth just a few points. Head to head makes no difference in the formula. Just looking at the numbers in the table, and without knowing anything about either Minot's or Winona's schedule, it looks like their opponent's winning percentages (strength of schedule) are pretty close to each other, so the deciding factor is probably just that Minot has a better record.

    The PI is just one in a number of different criteria that the selection committee will use, although those of us in the Midwest Region who have been watching Schnautza's spreadsheet for the past couple years have found that it's pretty accurate in determining who makes the post-season.

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    • #47
      Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

      Yep, DUPanther explained it for me. It's all a numbers game, nothing to do with names.

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      • #48
        Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

        Originally posted by Randy View Post
        Everyone needs to remember that the name of the opponent is not factored into the performance indicators. Only the record of the opponent is factored in. The committee will factor in head-to-head when the regional rankings are released.
        SMSU is 1-0 against St. Cloud this year. My sense is that if they meet in the conference tournament that could be a huge game for regional seedings or getting knocked to the outside looking in.

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        • #49
          Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

          Of course , SMSU is 0-1 against Mankato so far and hosts them the last weekend so that will be a huge game as well --

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          • #50
            Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

            and of course, it is all moot if SMS lays an egg on the road this weekend at Wayne and Augie - which is possible. Then it will be win the conference tournament or bust. Some huge games the next 2 regular season weekends and then conference tourney play

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            • #51
              Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

              Originally posted by MrMustang View Post
              SMSU is 1-0 against St. Cloud this year. My sense is that if they meet in the conference tournament that could be a huge game for regional seedings or getting knocked to the outside looking in.
              Here's hoping that that doesn't happen from the SCSU standpoint. The first game was UGLY.

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              • #52
                Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

                2 Northwest Missouri State Central MIAA 19-2 90.48% 16.81 55.13% 51.77% 18-2 90.00%
                7 Southern Nazarene Central GAC 19-1 95.00% 16.25 45.31% 49.58% 19-1 95.00%
                13 Northern State Central NSIC 23-3 88.46% 15.85 48.64% 51.78% 22-3 88.00%
                35 St. Cloud State Central NSIC 18-5 78.26% 14.57 48.92% 51.68% 18-5 78.26%
                45 Central Missouri Central MIAA 17-5 77.27% 14.14 49.34% 52.59% 17-5 77.27%
                54 Southwest Minnesota State Central NSIC 17-8 68.00% 14.04 52.32% 50.65% 17-8 68.00%
                55 Minnesota State Central NSIC 18-7 72.00% 14.00 48.96% 51.42% 16-7 69.57%
                55 Washburn Central MIAA 14-6 70.00% 14.00 53.81% 52.37% 14-6 70.00%
                61 Central Oklahoma Central MIAA 16-7 69.57% 13.91 51.66% 51.30% 16-7 69.57%
                71 Missouri Southern Central MIAA 15-7 68.18% 13.77 52.83% 51.76% 15-7 68.18%
                77 Winona State Central NSIC 15-8 65.22% 13.35 50.84% 51.39% 15-8 65.22%
                83 Northwestern Oklahoma State Central GAC 15-6 71.43% 13.24 45.19% 49.84% 15-6 71.43%
                106 Minot State Central NSIC 13-9 59.09% 12.41 49.93% 51.14% 13-9 59.09%
                109 Sioux Falls Central NSIC 13-10 56.52% 12.39 50.43% 51.58% 13-10 56.52%
                120 Arkansas Tech Central GAC 14-8 63.64% 12.18 43.25% 49.75% 14-8 63.64%
                121 East Central Central GAC 11-8 57.89% 12.16 47.90% 49.47% 11-8 57.89%
                124 Arkansas-Monticello Central GAC 12-9 57.14% 12.10 49.49% 48.50% 12-9 57.14%
                124 Pittsburg State Central MIAA 11-10 52.38% 12.10 55.12% 51.88% 10-9 52.63%
                130 Upper Iowa Central NSIC 15-13 53.57% 12.07 51.11% 51.25% 11-13 45.83%
                131 Augustana Central NSIC 13-10 56.52% 12.04 49.95% 51.41% 11-10 52.38%
                145 Lindenwood Central MIAA 10-10 50.00% 11.55 50.72% 52.92% 9-10 47.37%
                150 Southeastern Oklahoma State Central GAC 12-9 57.14% 11.48 45.45% 50.16% 12-9 57.14%
                150 Lincoln (Mo.) Central MIAA 10-11 47.62% 11.48 50.10% 51.68% 10-11 47.62%
                153 Fort Hays State Central MIAA 9-10 47.37% 11.47 53.44% 52.31% 9-10 47.37%
                167 Nebraska-Kearney Central MIAA 10-13 43.48% 11.17 53.41% 51.14% 10-13 43.48%
                185 Wayne State (Neb.) Central NSIC 11-13 45.83% 10.79 50.42% 51.57% 10-13 43.48%
                186 Southern Arkansas Central GAC 9-11 45.00% 10.75 49.49% 48.20% 9-11 45.00%
                197 Minnesota Duluth Central NSIC 10-15 40.00% 10.56 51.48% 50.61% 10-15 40.00%
                203 Ouachita Baptist Central GAC 7-12 36.84% 10.42 53.88% 47.25% 7-12 36.84%
                203 Henderson State Central GAC 8-11 42.11% 10.42 50.40% 47.98% 8-11 42.11%
                211 Bemidji State Central NSIC 8-14 36.36% 10.18 53.33% 51.05% 8-14 36.36%
                223 Minnesota Crookston Central NSIC 8-15 34.78% 9.91 53.33% 50.70% 8-15 34.78%
                241 Oklahoma Baptist Central GAC 8-14 36.36% 9.23 46.51% 49.73% 8-14 36.36%
                243 Southwest Baptist Central MIAA 6-13 31.58% 9.16 51.38% 51.43% 6-13 31.58%
                250 Missouri Western Central MIAA 5-17 22.73% 9.00 57.24% 50.98% 5-17 22.73%
                257 Northeastern State Central MIAA 5-17 22.73% 8.82 55.55% 50.45% 5-17 22.73%
                261 Emporia State Central MIAA 6-16 27.27% 8.77 54.85% 51.39% 6-16 27.27%
                267 MSU Moorhead Central NSIC 6-20 23.08% 8.65 53.45% 49.79% 6-20 23.08%
                269 U-Mary Central NSIC 5-17 22.73% 8.55 52.16% 50.81% 5-17 22.73%
                279 Harding Central GAC 4-18 18.18% 8.23 54.56% 46.53% 4-16 20.00%
                284 Concordia-St. Paul Central NSIC 4-19 17.39% 8.17 55.26% 50.10% 4-19 17.39%
                308 Southwestern Oklahoma State Central GAC 2-19 9.52% 6.29 48.45% 49.46% 2-19 9.52%

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                • #53
                  Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

                  Top 10 in region according to Massey
                  1. NW Missouri (1)
                  2. Northern State (3)
                  3. Southern Nazarene (4)
                  4. Washburn (12)
                  5. Central Missouri (13)
                  6. St. Cloud (15)
                  7. Minnesota State (16)
                  8. Southwest Minnesota (17)
                  9. Central Oklahoma (18)
                  10. Missouri Southern (19)

                  Massey loves the Central Region.

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                  • #54
                    Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

                    As much as UCM fans complain about their program, the numbers love their team.

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                    • #55
                      Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

                      Originally posted by schnautza View Post
                      2 Northwest Missouri State Central MIAA 19-2 90.48% 16.81 55.13% 51.77% 18-2 90.00%
                      7 Southern Nazarene Central GAC 19-1 95.00% 16.25 45.31% 49.58% 19-1 95.00%
                      13 Northern State Central NSIC 23-3 88.46% 15.85 48.64% 51.78% 22-3 88.00%
                      35 St. Cloud State Central NSIC 18-5 78.26% 14.57 48.92% 51.68% 18-5 78.26%
                      45 Central Missouri Central MIAA 17-5 77.27% 14.14 49.34% 52.59% 17-5 77.27%
                      54 Southwest Minnesota State Central NSIC 17-8 68.00% 14.04 52.32% 50.65% 17-8 68.00%
                      55 Minnesota State Central NSIC 18-7 72.00% 14.00 48.96% 51.42% 16-7 69.57%
                      55 Washburn Central MIAA 14-6 70.00% 14.00 53.81% 52.37% 14-6 70.00%
                      61 Central Oklahoma Central MIAA 16-7 69.57% 13.91 51.66% 51.30% 16-7 69.57%
                      71 Missouri Southern Central MIAA 15-7 68.18% 13.77 52.83% 51.76% 15-7 68.18%
                      77 Winona State Central NSIC 15-8 65.22% 13.35 50.84% 51.39% 15-8 65.22%
                      83 Northwestern Oklahoma State Central GAC 15-6 71.43% 13.24 45.19% 49.84% 15-6 71.43%
                      106 Minot State Central NSIC 13-9 59.09% 12.41 49.93% 51.14% 13-9 59.09%
                      109 Sioux Falls Central NSIC 13-10 56.52% 12.39 50.43% 51.58% 13-10 56.52%
                      120 Arkansas Tech Central GAC 14-8 63.64% 12.18 43.25% 49.75% 14-8 63.64%
                      121 East Central Central GAC 11-8 57.89% 12.16 47.90% 49.47% 11-8 57.89%
                      124 Arkansas-Monticello Central GAC 12-9 57.14% 12.10 49.49% 48.50% 12-9 57.14%
                      124 Pittsburg State Central MIAA 11-10 52.38% 12.10 55.12% 51.88% 10-9 52.63%
                      130 Upper Iowa Central NSIC 15-13 53.57% 12.07 51.11% 51.25% 11-13 45.83%
                      131 Augustana Central NSIC 13-10 56.52% 12.04 49.95% 51.41% 11-10 52.38%
                      145 Lindenwood Central MIAA 10-10 50.00% 11.55 50.72% 52.92% 9-10 47.37%
                      150 Southeastern Oklahoma State Central GAC 12-9 57.14% 11.48 45.45% 50.16% 12-9 57.14%
                      150 Lincoln (Mo.) Central MIAA 10-11 47.62% 11.48 50.10% 51.68% 10-11 47.62%
                      153 Fort Hays State Central MIAA 9-10 47.37% 11.47 53.44% 52.31% 9-10 47.37%
                      167 Nebraska-Kearney Central MIAA 10-13 43.48% 11.17 53.41% 51.14% 10-13 43.48%
                      185 Wayne State (Neb.) Central NSIC 11-13 45.83% 10.79 50.42% 51.57% 10-13 43.48%
                      186 Southern Arkansas Central GAC 9-11 45.00% 10.75 49.49% 48.20% 9-11 45.00%
                      197 Minnesota Duluth Central NSIC 10-15 40.00% 10.56 51.48% 50.61% 10-15 40.00%
                      203 Ouachita Baptist Central GAC 7-12 36.84% 10.42 53.88% 47.25% 7-12 36.84%
                      203 Henderson State Central GAC 8-11 42.11% 10.42 50.40% 47.98% 8-11 42.11%
                      211 Bemidji State Central NSIC 8-14 36.36% 10.18 53.33% 51.05% 8-14 36.36%
                      223 Minnesota Crookston Central NSIC 8-15 34.78% 9.91 53.33% 50.70% 8-15 34.78%
                      241 Oklahoma Baptist Central GAC 8-14 36.36% 9.23 46.51% 49.73% 8-14 36.36%
                      243 Southwest Baptist Central MIAA 6-13 31.58% 9.16 51.38% 51.43% 6-13 31.58%
                      250 Missouri Western Central MIAA 5-17 22.73% 9.00 57.24% 50.98% 5-17 22.73%
                      257 Northeastern State Central MIAA 5-17 22.73% 8.82 55.55% 50.45% 5-17 22.73%
                      261 Emporia State Central MIAA 6-16 27.27% 8.77 54.85% 51.39% 6-16 27.27%
                      267 MSU Moorhead Central NSIC 6-20 23.08% 8.65 53.45% 49.79% 6-20 23.08%
                      269 U-Mary Central NSIC 5-17 22.73% 8.55 52.16% 50.81% 5-17 22.73%
                      279 Harding Central GAC 4-18 18.18% 8.23 54.56% 46.53% 4-16 20.00%
                      284 Concordia-St. Paul Central NSIC 4-19 17.39% 8.17 55.26% 50.10% 4-19 17.39%
                      308 Southwestern Oklahoma State Central GAC 2-19 9.52% 6.29 48.45% 49.46% 2-19 9.52%
                      Although they deserved two losses the way they played Saturday night, Minnesota State currently had 6 losses overall (and in region).

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                      • #56
                        Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

                        Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post
                        Although they deserved two losses the way they played Saturday night, Minnesota State currently had 6 losses overall (and in region).
                        Looks like my source had the Upper Iowa score reversed. Here's the corrected numbers:

                        2 Northwest Missouri State Central MIAA 19-2 90.48% 16.81 54.96% 51.77% 18-2 90.00%
                        7 Southern Nazarene Central GAC 19-1 95.00% 16.25 45.31% 49.58% 19-1 95.00%
                        11 Northern State Central NSIC 23-3 88.46% 15.96 48.65% 51.79% 22-3 88.00%
                        34 St. Cloud State Central NSIC 18-5 78.26% 14.83 49.11% 51.71% 18-5 78.26%
                        39 Minnesota State Central NSIC 19-6 76.00% 14.48 48.68% 51.52% 17-6 73.91%
                        46 Southwest Minnesota State Central NSIC 17-8 68.00% 14.16 52.19% 50.70% 17-8 68.00%
                        47 Central Missouri Central MIAA 17-5 77.27% 14.14 49.34% 52.58% 17-5 77.27%
                        56 Washburn Central MIAA 14-6 70.00% 14.00 53.81% 52.37% 14-6 70.00%
                        61 Central Oklahoma Central MIAA 16-7 69.57% 13.91 51.66% 51.31% 16-7 69.57%
                        62 Missouri Southern Central MIAA 15-7 68.18% 13.91 53.01% 51.74% 15-7 68.18%
                        73 Winona State Central NSIC 15-8 65.22% 13.61 50.88% 51.39% 15-8 65.22%
                        83 Northwestern Oklahoma State Central GAC 15-6 71.43% 13.24 45.19% 49.84% 15-6 71.43%
                        102 Minot State Central NSIC 13-9 59.09% 12.55 49.95% 51.18% 13-9 59.09%
                        104 Sioux Falls Central NSIC 13-10 56.52% 12.52 50.29% 51.63% 13-10 56.52%
                        113 Augustana Central NSIC 13-10 56.52% 12.30 50.15% 51.41% 11-10 52.38%
                        118 Pittsburg State Central MIAA 11-10 52.38% 12.24 55.31% 51.86% 10-9 52.63%
                        122 Arkansas Tech Central GAC 14-8 63.64% 12.18 43.25% 49.76% 14-8 63.64%
                        123 East Central Central GAC 11-8 57.89% 12.16 47.90% 49.47% 11-8 57.89%
                        126 Arkansas-Monticello Central GAC 12-9 57.14% 12.10 49.49% 48.50% 12-9 57.14%
                        135 Upper Iowa Central NSIC 14-14 50.00% 11.86 51.39% 51.19% 10-14 41.67%
                        145 Lindenwood Central MIAA 10-10 50.00% 11.55 50.72% 52.93% 9-10 47.37%
                        150 Southeastern Oklahoma State Central GAC 12-9 57.14% 11.48 45.45% 50.15% 12-9 57.14%
                        150 Lincoln (Mo.) Central MIAA 10-11 47.62% 11.48 50.10% 51.69% 10-11 47.62%
                        153 Fort Hays State Central MIAA 9-10 47.37% 11.47 53.44% 52.30% 9-10 47.37%
                        167 Nebraska-Kearney Central MIAA 10-13 43.48% 11.17 53.41% 51.15% 10-13 43.48%
                        174 Wayne State (Neb.) Central NSIC 11-13 45.83% 11.04 50.60% 51.58% 10-13 43.48%
                        186 Southern Arkansas Central GAC 9-11 45.00% 10.75 49.49% 48.20% 9-11 45.00%
                        192 Minnesota Duluth Central NSIC 10-15 40.00% 10.68 51.50% 50.64% 10-15 40.00%
                        203 Ouachita Baptist Central GAC 7-12 36.84% 10.42 53.88% 47.25% 7-12 36.84%
                        203 Henderson State Central GAC 8-11 42.11% 10.42 50.40% 47.98% 8-11 42.11%
                        209 Bemidji State Central NSIC 8-14 36.36% 10.32 53.35% 51.08% 8-14 36.36%
                        220 Minnesota Crookston Central NSIC 8-15 34.78% 10.04 53.34% 50.73% 8-15 34.78%
                        241 Oklahoma Baptist Central GAC 8-14 36.36% 9.23 46.51% 49.73% 8-14 36.36%
                        243 Southwest Baptist Central MIAA 6-13 31.58% 9.16 51.38% 51.43% 6-13 31.58%
                        250 Missouri Western Central MIAA 5-17 22.73% 9.00 57.07% 50.99% 5-17 22.73%
                        257 Northeastern State Central MIAA 5-17 22.73% 8.82 55.55% 50.45% 5-17 22.73%
                        261 Emporia State Central MIAA 6-16 27.27% 8.77 54.85% 51.38% 6-16 27.27%
                        262 MSU Moorhead Central NSIC 6-20 23.08% 8.77 53.46% 49.81% 6-20 23.08%
                        268 U-Mary Central NSIC 5-17 22.73% 8.68 52.18% 50.85% 5-17 22.73%
                        271 Concordia-St. Paul Central NSIC 4-19 17.39% 8.43 55.29% 50.14% 4-19 17.39%
                        280 Harding Central GAC 4-18 18.18% 8.23 54.56% 46.53% 4-16 20.00%
                        308 Southwestern Oklahoma State Central GAC 2-19 9.52% 6.29 48.45% 49.46% 2-19 9.52%

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                        • #57
                          Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

                          Originally posted by BearcatMediaStudent1 View Post
                          As much as UCM fans complain about their program, the numbers love their team.
                          I retrack my statement with the updated numbers.

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                          • #58
                            Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

                            Originally posted by BearcatMediaStudent1 View Post
                            I retrack my statement with the updated numbers.
                            For now, they're still pretty solidly in the Top 7 by what I'm seeing.

                            Looking like a 4-3-1 split at the time, with four teams fighting for the last two MIAA spots.

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                            • #59
                              Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

                              Originally posted by Stanger86 View Post
                              For now, they're still pretty solidly in the Top 7 by what I'm seeing.

                              Looking like a 4-3-1 split at the time, with four teams fighting for the last two MIAA spots.
                              The only other team that can get into the mix is Northwestern Oklahoma. They've got a blowout win over Central Oklahoma earlier this season and a chance for a big win versus Southern Nazarene. If they go 5-1 down the stretch to end the season at 21-7, they'll be on the fringes for eighth.

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                              • #60
                                Re: 2017-18 Performance Indicators

                                Originally posted by Stanger86 View Post
                                For now, they're still pretty solidly in the Top 7 by what I'm seeing.

                                Looking like a 4-3-1 split at the time, with four teams fighting for the last two MIAA spots.
                                UCM has a tough road down the stretch. at Lincoln, at Lindenwood, vs Mo Southern and at Pitt State. then the MIAA Tournament.

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