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  • #16
    So, will BU slip past Nova for the #1 slot?

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    • #17
      Its possible, although I prefer that they don't. Bellarmine appears to be no. 1 in all the mathematical ratings. Frankly, if I were voting, I'd still vote NWMSt #1. I guess it would be interesting to say that the #1 team in D1 and D2 are in Louisville.

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      • #18
        Wow! NWMS lost to Central Missouri, a team that was beaten at home by William Jewel?? There must be something more to explain that, maybe key players injured or something?

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        • #19
          I guess the new poll will come out today. Here is what the top five should be IMO, not what it will be.

          1. NWMSt: They are 46-1, one loss does not mean they aren't the best team.
          2. West Texas A&M
          3. Lincoln Memorial, one loss to West Texas A&M in overtime. Crushed everybody else.
          4. Bellarmine
          5. IUP

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          • #20
            NABC Coaches Poll (Tuesday, December 10, 2019 -- Regular Season Poll #4)
            Team Record Points
            1. Nova Southeastern (Fla.) 5-0 391 (8 first place votes)
            2. Bellarmine (Ky.) 6-0 381 (4 first place votes)
            3. West Texas A&M 9-0 368 (1 first place vote)
            4. Northwest Missouri State 8-1 348 (3 first place votes)
            5. Indiana (Pa.) 7-0 342
            6. Alabama Huntsville 7-0 324
            7. Lincoln Memorial (Tenn.) 9-1 307
            8. Daemen (N.Y.) 10-1 273
            9. Dixie State (Utah) 8-0 250
            10. UC San Diego 8-1 238
            11. Missouri Southern 7-1 232
            12. St. Edward's (Texas) 7-1 198
            13. Dallas Baptist (Texas) 7-0 189
            14. Southeastern Oklahoma State 5-0 184
            15. Indianapolis (Ind.) 7-1 175
            16. Southern Indiana 5-1 151
            17. Ferris State (Mich.) 12-1 139
            18. West Chester (Pa.) 9-0 129
            19. Florida Southern 8-1 123
            20. Queens (N.C.) 7-2 108
            21. Augustana (S.D.) 8-1 52
            22. West Liberty (W.Va.) 6-2 47
            23. Pace (N.Y.) 9-0 39
            24. St. Thomas Aquinas (N.Y.) 8-1 35
            25. Dominican (N.Y.) 8-1 32

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            • #21
              Our new D2 #1 team was recently in the news...

              https://www.yahoo.com/news/saint-leo...144808458.html

              My main question is what was the ref standing 3 feet away looking at?

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              • #22
                #3 West Texas A&M lost last night at #12 St. Edwards.

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                • #23
                  Mid-week update. Not a lot of games played, but a couple notable ones.
                  NABC Coaches Poll (Tuesday, December 10, 2019 -- Regular Season Poll #4)
                  Team Record Points
                  1. Nova Southeastern (Fla.) 5-0 391 Wins: 134-95 Ave Maria (home); Losses: 85-86 Rollins (home)
                  2. Bellarmine (Ky.) 6-0 381 Wins: 95-52 Mount St. Joseph (home)
                  3. West Texas A&M 9-0 368 Wins: 96-77 St. Mary's (away); Losses: 87-100 #12 St. Edward's (away)
                  4. Northwest Missouri State 8-1 348
                  5. Indiana (Pa.) 7-0 342 Wins: 108-41 Bethany (home)
                  6. Alabama Huntsville 7-0 324 Wins: 84-53 Lane (home); Losses: 62-84 Valdosta State (away)
                  7. Lincoln Memorial (Tenn.) 9-1 307 Wins: 122-62 Tennessee Wesleyan (home)
                  8. Daemen (N.Y.) 10-1 273 Wins: 103-59 Mercy (away); Losses: 80-87 #24 St. Thomas Aquinas (away)
                  9. Dixie State (Utah) 8-0 250 Wins: 109-108 (OT) New Mexico Highlands (away), 81-69 CSU Pueblo (away)
                  10. UC San Diego 8-1 238
                  11. Missouri Southern 7-1 232
                  12. St. Edward's (Texas) 7-1 198 Wins: 100-87 #3 West Texas A&M (home), 85-66 Eastern New Mexico (home)
                  13. Dallas Baptist (Texas) 7-0 189 Wins: 96-49 Dallas Christian (home), 103-75 Howard Payne (home)
                  14. Southeastern Oklahoma State 5-0 184 Losses: 65-77 Southern Nazarene (away)
                  15. Indianapolis (Ind.) 7-1 175
                  16. Southern Indiana 5-1 151 Wins: 81-61 Lincoln College (home)
                  17. Ferris State (Mich.) 12-1 139 Wins: 97-86 Lake Superior State (away)
                  18. West Chester (Pa.) 9-0 129
                  19. Florida Southern 8-1 123 Wins: 99-84 Lynn (home)
                  20. Queens (N.C.) 7-2 108
                  21. Augustana (S.D.) 8-1 52 Wins: 101-68 Minnesota Crookston (away); Losses: 73-75 Bemidji State (away)
                  22. West Liberty (W.Va.) 6-2 47 Wins: 112-84 West Virginia State (home); Losses: 73-83 Charleston (away)
                  23. Pace (N.Y.) 9-0 39 Wins: 94-54 Staten Island (home); Losses: 53-67 Adelphi (home), 55-64 Jefferson (away)
                  24. St. Thomas Aquinas (N.Y.) 8-1 35 Wins: 82-58 Roberts Wesleyan (home)
                  25. Dominican (N.Y.) 8-1 32
                  Others receiving votes:
                  Ashland (Ohio) 30, Losses: 64-69 Wayne State MI (home)
                  Northeastern State (Okla.) 24,

                  Valdosta State (Ga.) 14, Wins: 84-62 #6 Alabama Huntsville (home)
                  Cal Poly Pomona 12,
                  Belmont Abbey (N.C.) 11, Wins: 98-95 Lees-McRae (home)
                  Grand Valley State (Mich.) 10, Wins: 79-69 Davenport (away)
                  Saint Anselm (N.H.) 7, Wins: 71-70 Jefferson (home)
                  Angelo State (Texas) 5,
                  Minnesota Duluth 5, Wins: 100-65 Sioux Falls (away); Losses: 82-89 (3OT) Southwest Minnesota State (away)
                  Drury (Mo.) 4, Wins: 77-55 Central Christian (home)
                  Embry-Riddle (Fla.) 2, Wins: 105-80 Palm Beach Atlantic (home)
                  Regis (Colo.) 2, Losses: 64-77 UCCS (home), 68-70 Colorado School of Mines (home)
                  East Central (Okla.) 1,
                  Jefferson (Pa.) 1, Wins: 64-55 #23 Pace (home); Losses: 70-71 Saint Anselm (away)
                  Last edited by schnautza; 12-16-2019, 09:09 AM.

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                  • #24
                    I am mildly surprised that Drury has not broken into the top 25. Undefeated and having the tradition they do, I would have thought the pollsters would have put them in by now. I mean they kept a bad West Liberty in the poll despite 2 losses (now 3) strictly based on reputation. Drury certainly deserves more, not necessarily because they are a top 25 team (who knows yet?) but just on reputation and record.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by KnightStalker View Post
                      I am mildly surprised that Drury has not broken into the top 25. Undefeated and having the tradition they do, I would have thought the pollsters would have put them in by now. I mean they kept a bad West Liberty in the poll despite 2 losses (now 3) strictly based on reputation. Drury certainly deserves more, not necessarily because they are a top 25 team (who knows yet?) but just on reputation and record.
                      I'm guessing their 76-78 loss at home to D3 Blackburn is the reason they aren't on the rankings. Curiously, Drury shows their record as 6-0, but I thought exhibitions against D3 generally count in regular season records, aside from performance indicator calculations.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by schnautza View Post

                        I'm guessing their 76-78 loss at home to D3 Blackburn is the reason they aren't on the rankings. Curiously, Drury shows their record as 6-0, but I thought exhibitions against D3 generally count in regular season records, aside from performance indicator calculations.
                        Last edited by DUPanther; 12-13-2019, 09:43 PM.

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                        • #27
                          This exhibition or not an exhibition thing is further complicated by the fact that NAIA teams call games against D2 teams exhibitions, while D2 teams supposedly count them on their records. Except the D2 tournament committee does not consider games against NAIA teams when making selections, so the games don't really count in any meaningful way.

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                          • #28
                            It's not that uncommon. D1/D2 games are counted that way, too, sometimes, it just depends. For example, KWC @ Samford earlier this season was an exh for us but a real game for them. Happens quite often, actually.

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                            • #29
                              Oops, wrong topic

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                              • #30
                                Post from 12/13 has been updated.
                                This week, we saw losses from #1, 3, 6, 8, 14, 21, 22, 23.
                                It looks likely that BU is #1, and UIndy and USI round out the top 15 going into the break.

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