2018 NC NOT in KC??

[bigmrg74]

Re: 2018 NC NOT in KC??

I'm a little late to the thread and sorry if this is has been said but what about having the game at Georgia State Stadium (Atlanta, GA) in the future. Looks like a nice stadium.

https://stadium.gsu.edu/

Wouldn't be totally opposed to that location. Not really a fan of stadiums that are converted baseball fields, but I think we could make it work if they put in a bid for it.

Alaska is one of the nicest cruises I have ever taken, and we have done 30+ cruises.

We escorted a running club from San Antonio to Iceland during a record snowfall, and enjoyed it thoroughly.

Traveling to cold is great!

Sitting in cold to watch a football game, not so much.

That's why I perfer to stand at games in the cold. Then you're not in as much contact with the cold seat that can pull your body heat out. Plus standing just used just that much more muscle to do, so that you should be burning more calories, which produces heat and should keep you warmer.

[Cat N Mav]

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just out of curiosity, since you are so vocal about this, how many championship games have you attended? (it doesn't matter for discussion, just curious) if the game is moved within 2 hours of you will you go regardless if your team is?

If he goes to any, it would have have to be regardless of whether his team is in it or not, since going to any because they are in it is not an option.

[Greenman]

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Not a theory. We were told adnausium that the educated local fans in KC would turn out and insure high attendance even for games that didnt have a local team. Didn't happen which begs the question, what is the reason KC is a better location than any other place across the US??

just out of curiosity, since you are so vocal about this, how many championship games have you attended? (it doesn't matter for discussion, just curious) if the game is moved within 2 hours of you will you go regardless if your team is?

[Cat N Mav]

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I agree with Ian. The facility was incredible. I went when my team was there and when they weren't... the weather ducked for the snow game, but the facility was still great. I can only compare between Florence and KC, facilities KC wins hands down... but I also enjoyed my trips to Alabama.

MIAA fans outnumbered fans from CSU-P when I was there, and the highest attended game showed what can happen when a local team gets in it. I'd say for the NCAA to gamble that Northwest or Pitt State will make it is the most well hedged bet they can make in DII based on the past 20 years. During the 4 years the game was there, that bet paid off, too.

[SoCal Laker]

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This may be a crazy idea, but why don't we start acting like the division that we are in. We keep looking for these stadiums that hold 20 and 30 thousand, when in reality, it's a typical game is going to hold between 9 and 10000 fans.

For that size you could come up with some option where one of the two teams that are playing in the championship can either host it in their Stadium or work with another local Stadium to host the game. If they are unable to do this, with the NCAA help, then the opponent has a chance to do it. I know that there would be a lot of logistics but you are at least guaranteed to get most of the fans from one of the schools to attend, and you start to see more of your terrain. Plus, all four semifinal teams would have to start too bring the local community up to speed, which broadens our brand, even if the game doesn't end up there.

[Ian Carlson]

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Not a theory. We were told adnausium that the educated local fans in KC would turn out and insure high attendance even for games that didnt have a local team. Didn't happen which begs the question, what is the reason KC is a better location than any other place across the US??

You keep saying that everyone said this, and it's just not true. Was it said by a couple people? Yes. But it wasn't the prevailing thought. What was the prevailing thought? The world class stadium. That's it.

The MIAA fan base is the most vocal and active fan base in D2, and it is by an incredibly large margin. So there is no question the locals in this part of the country were excited when KC got the bid (myself included....I've been to all four games, too, btw). You've been making a mountain out of a molehill since the snow game, and as I said, its tiring. Anyone who argues about ANY location having great attendance because of the location is blowing hot air (including the extremely small number who said so about KC). The only guarantee of great attendance at the D2 NC game is if a local team plays in it. Period. Children's Mercy Park was a fantastic stadium in all four games. I hope wherever gets the bid can be at least half as nice.

[boatcapt]

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The locals clearly outnumbered the UWF fans, and I don't think TAMUC's contingent was much bigger. At the end of the day, good attendance is completely driven by the participating schools' fan bases, and that will be true until the end of time. Your conspiracy theorist ridiculousness is getting tired.

Not a theory. We were told adnausium that the educated local fans in KC would turn out and insure high attendance even for games that didnt have a local team. Didn't happen which begs the question, what is the reason KC is a better location than any other place across the US??

[IH8SVSU]

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You missed the point.

Mmmm no, I didn't. CWU hasn't been relevant since Mike Rieley was there. Kind of like Grand Valley hasn't been relevant since Matt Mitchell has been the head coach.

[Ian Carlson]

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Were where the knowledgeable locals that would turn out to support the game that we heard so very much about during "the game must be moved from Florence" discussion? Last year was the perfect opportunity to determine if these folks actually existed or weather they were a figment of the imagination

The locals clearly outnumbered the UWF fans, and I don't think TAMUC's contingent was much bigger. At the end of the day, good attendance is completely driven by the participating schools' fan bases, and that will be true until the end of time. Your conspiracy theorist ridiculousness is getting tired.

[NWFanatic]

[boatcapt]

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Because it was a startup school with no fan base vs an LSC team that hasn't been good in forever. They would have had a low draw anywhere.

Were where the knowledgeable locals that would turn out to support the game that we heard so very much about during "the game must be moved from Florence" discussion? Last year was the perfect opportunity to determine if these folks actually existed or weather they were a figment of the imagination

[Predatory Primates]

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Bids are due Monday. When will they decide?

[Try II]

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Why not War Memorial Stadium in Little Rock?

A capacity of 55,000 is a way too big for D2. Mercy was 19,000-ish and UNA's 14,500 ... that's the right location in the country though.

[Wildcat Khan]

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I'm sure the "loophole" is intentional. The NCAA backed out of the baseball championship agreement with Montgomery as the baseball season was starting back in 2008. The reason given was that the city hadn't lived up to the agreement. I'm sure that's why each side has the ability to back out of the contract. The NCAA wants the ability to get out if they feel the host is jerking them around.

Or makes a law they don't agree with like Carolina. I'm interested to see how Oregon will be treated now with the new Gambling decision by the Supreme Court, as the Mota Center and Memorial Coliseum would be perfect for hosting NCAA tournament games. They stopped Oregon from hosting decades ago when Oregon had "legal betting" by having NFL games in their lottery.

You open up a very interesting question in regards to more than just the Division II championship.

[Randy]

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I would add that the ncaa and the miaa have some culpability here if they left a loophole for sporting to pull a last minute backout like this.

I'm sure the "loophole" is intentional. The NCAA backed out of the baseball championship agreement with Montgomery as the baseball season was starting back in 2008. The reason given was that the city hadn't lived up to the agreement. I'm sure that's why each side has the ability to back out of the contract. The NCAA wants the ability to get out if they feel the host is jerking them around.