2018 NC NOT in KC??

[BearcatDude]

Re: 2018 NC NOT in KC??

Well I'm attempting to be intellectually honest that some could consider that to be a negative. The "debacle" comments were ridiculous, especially after all the praise about Daytona.

[Brandon Misener]

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Heck what happened to football being a "cold weather sport." When I was a kid, I always liked watching snow games on TV, it always happened when after the season was over so no practice. But one day I want to attend a game played in the snow.

I understand the desire of the people in the south to play the championship game in temperatures they're used to. Anything above freezing is OK with me for a championship game.

[UCObluejay]

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I thought I also read that the snow game aka "debacle" was one of the better ratings wise televised games.

Heck what happened to football being a "cold weather sport." When I was a kid, I always liked watching snow games on TV, it always happened when after the season was over so no practice. But one day I want to attend a game played in the snow.

[JR Chaney]

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Well I'm attempting to be intellectually honest that some could consider that to be a negative. The "debacle" comments were ridiculous, especially after all the praise about Daytona.

I thought I also read that the snow game aka "debacle" was one of the better ratings wise televised games.

[Brandon Misener]

Re: 2018 NC NOT in KC??

Well I'm attempting to be intellectually honest that some could consider that to be a negative. The "debacle" comments were ridiculous, especially after all the praise about Daytona.

[BearcatDude]

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The only year in Kansas City the game was played that could even be considered a negative was 2016 with the snow. The 2015 game was incredible and the two others were good.

I have been to 15 championship games and the reaction from the kids for KC was great.

[Brandon Misener]

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Just looking at the attendance records the games were mostly sub 10,000 attendance for most years AFTER 1995 in both Braly and KC, with 2015 having 16K.

Any info on who has submitted bids thus far?

I don't know a thing. It's going to be very interesting. A year to remember for sure.

[Brandon Misener]

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There are MANY places that could host the D2 NC game. We have to stop being boxed into thinking that it has to be in the midwest region. I have covered the NAIA national championship game for over a decade. The last several years it has been held in Daytona Beach, FL on the same weekend as D2 NC game. They have gotten a great turnout at those game. Students galore with bands and parents tailgating. And yes, even some regular fans making there trip to cheer on their teams, like Southern Oregon, Marion (IN), St. Francis (IN), Baker (KS). These folks travelled and LOVED the game being in warm weather. Yes, right before Christmas and far away from their home base. The idea that it has to be close to the midwest is ridiculous. The KC experiment was a debacle. From horrible weather to have to have it moved now. Bury the KC and Missouri, Kansas idea and move on.

I was willing to believe your comments about Daytona, but when I started doing research......

NAIA Championship Game in Daytona Beach

2017 - 4,432 & 63 degrees (highest attendance with a team from Georgia in the game)
2016 - 2,500 & 81 degrees
2015 - 3,500 & 63 degrees
2014 - 1,941 & 75 degrees

In comparison, those same years:

D2 Championship Game in Kansas City, KS

2017 - 4,259 & 61 degrees
2016 - 9,576 & 32 degrees
2015 - 16,181 & 54 degrees
2014 - 6,762 & 45 degrees

Dayton four year average: 3,093 & 70 degrees
KC four year average: 9,194 & 48 degrees

In addition, the NAIA has an off week between the semifinals and the championship.

[UCObluejay]

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The only year in Kansas City the game was played that could even be considered a negative was 2016 with the snow. The 2015 game was incredible and the two others were good.

I have been to 15 championship games and the reaction from the kids for KC was great.

Just looking at the attendance records the games were mostly sub 10,000 attendance for most years AFTER 1995 in both Braly and KC, with 2015 having 16K.

When PSU put in their bid, they were going to use the suites on the west side for media.

Washburn doesn't have much space and they only have that small bad to shoot in. I assume ESPN would broadcast from the box to the left of the print media.

Any info on who has submitted bids thus far?

[Predatory Primates]

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I like the Little Rock idea for the future, but I doubt local interest down there could be raised at all. Heck UALR had a real contender in the D1 bball tourney a couple of years ago and nobody in LR even noticed.

[Brandon Misener]

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You're probably not going to make many friends here with THAT attitude! EVERYONE "in the know" KNOWS the game must be in the Midwest!!!

Hahahahaha!!!!

[Brandon Misener]

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Not sure why you think Frisco would be without fanfare or why the teams would have to show up the night before? If the game gets awarded there the teams will have as much time to plan as they do every year when they make the finals. Frisco has also been hosting the FCS Championship and has the infrastructure in place to make an event like this happen, with all the glitz and fanfare, even with 3 just months notice.

That's not what the point was.

The committee coordinate, plan, and schedule events with the teams and work on this a year in advance. The likelihood that all the extra events can be scheduled with a short notice is not as likely. Without the extra events scheduled, there would be no need to come in three days early. We simply disagree on the ability to pull off the side events.

[Brandon Misener]

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I can't believe I'm saying this but...with it being a neutral site game and not needing to use the third floor suites, WU's set up might be better suited for the media than UCM's. Strictly talking from a media perspective both are better than Pitt State's set up now. They have no room for the media after taking up half the press box with videoboard control stuff.

When PSU put in their bid, they were going to use the suites on the west side for media.

Washburn doesn't have much space and they only have that small bad to shoot in. I assume ESPN would broadcast from the box to the left of the print media.

[Brandon Misener]

Re: 2018 NC NOT in KC??

The KC experiment was a debacle. From horrible weather to have to have it moved now. Bury the KC and Missouri, Kansas idea and move on.

The only year in Kansas City the game was played that could even be considered a negative was 2016 with the snow. The 2015 game was incredible and the two others were good.

I have been to 15 championship games and the reaction from the kids for KC was great.

[boatcapt]

Re: 2018 NC NOT in KC??

Here's something I thought of.

Let's talk 2018 only.

Let's assume you are a player and have never played in a championship game before.

Would you rather:

1. Play at a stadium like The Star without much fanfare because you showed up the night before the game because of the lack of time to plan?

or

2. Play at Central Missouri's or Missouri Western's stadium, obviously nice D2 stadiums but not as nice as The Star, but you get to show up on Wednesday and have more pomp and circumstance?

I think that's the real question to be had for 2018.

What is the pomp and circumstance you speak of? If these are events that play almost exclusively to DII teams and fans that happen to attend (pep rally, dinner, etc), why couldn't they be duplicated on short notice? Don't think there is a grand ticker-tape parade through the center of the city were the mayor gives the winning HC the "keys to the city", or something like that, is there?