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    What football conferences do you think are the best in d2 football?

    When I think of best conferences the..
    (In no order)

    NSIC
    MIAA
    LSC
    GSC
    GLIAC

    come to mind.

  • #2
    Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

    Originally posted by Twincitiesmav View Post
    What football conferences do you think are the best in d2 football?

    When I think of best conferences the..
    (In no order)

    NSIC
    MIAA
    LSC
    GSC
    GLIAC

    come to mind.
    MIAA no question #1
    LSC
    GLIAC
    GSC
    NSIC

    In that order

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    • #3
      Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

      MIAA isn't great the last 2 years. Still good, but definitely a step down from the past.

      Not sure I would put LSC up there with the other 4. Those 4 have some depth and have all put out more than 1 true contender per season in multiple seasons. Not sure the LSC has done that, although they do have some decent depth within the conference.

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      • #4
        Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

        Current average ranking of top eight teams in each conference, according to Massey (GNAC does not have 8 teams so I extrapolated)


        MAIAA 13
        GLIAC 38
        GSC 40
        GAC 46
        PSAC 49
        NSIC 51.5
        LSC 51.9
        RMAC 61
        SAC 80
        GNAC 84
        GMAC 86
        NE10 88
        GLVC 93
        CIAA 110
        SIAC 112
        MEC 113

        I used the top eight because all but one conference has at least eight teams.
        Last edited by boyblue; 10-15-2018, 08:03 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

          It really all depends on how you view the criteria for best conference to be determined. It is the MIAA if you think NWMS winning titles with regularity makes a good conference. It is the GLIAC if you find multiple teams making deep runs with regularity to be what makes a good conference. It is the LSC if you want to go by the conference with the most recent winner. So it is all in the eye of the beholder.
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          • #6
            Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

            D2 Rankings are flawed. Perennial power schools are given the huge benefit ofthe doubt.
            Seeing the PSAC ahead of the LSC, RMAC and NSIC seems flawed in that analysis.
            New blood takes time to gain respect. See Tarleton this year. Undefeated and Rolled the defending champions at their place. That said, the top 2 teams in the power conferences always have a chance to go far most years.

            Originally posted by boyblue View Post
            Current average ranking of top eight teams in each conference, according to Massey (GNAC does not have 8 teams so I extrapolated)


            MAIAA 13
            GLIAC 38
            GSC 40
            GAC 46
            PSAC 49
            NSIC 51.5
            LSC 51.9
            RMAC 61
            SAC 80
            GNAC 84
            GMAC 86
            NE10 88
            GLVC 93
            CIAA 110
            SIAC 112
            MEC 113

            I used the top eight because all but one conference has at least eight teams.
            Last edited by MNXplorer; 10-15-2018, 08:58 PM. Reason: Added

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            • #7
              Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

              Originally posted by KleShreen View Post
              It really all depends on how you view the criteria for best conference to be determined. It is the MIAA if you think NWMS winning titles with regularity makes a good conference. It is the GLIAC if you find multiple teams making deep runs with regularity to be what makes a good conference. It is the LSC if you want to go by the conference with the most recent winner. So it is all in the eye of the beholder.
              For sure. I tend to think of the strongest eight or so like BoyBlue posted.

              But in spite of what Massey says, my gut feeling this year is that this is the order:

              1. GSC
              2. GLIAC
              3. LSC
              4. MIAA
              5. NSIC

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              • #8
                Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

                Originally posted by Brandon View Post
                For sure. I tend to think of the strongest eight or so like BoyBlue posted.

                But in spite of what Massey says, my gut feeling this year is that this is the order:

                1. GSC
                2. GLIAC
                3. LSC
                4. MIAA
                5. NSIC
                Looking at the eighth place team in each conference listed:
                GSC - Delta State and Shorter both 0-5 GSC, 0-7 overall
                GLIAC - Wayne State 0-4 GLIAC, 1-6 overall
                LSC - TAMU-Kingsville 0-4 LSC, 2-5 overall
                MIAA - Central Okla., Emporia State, Mo. Western, Neb.-Kearney, Washburn all tied for fourth at 4-3 MIAA, 4-3 overall
                NSIC - Augie and Sioux Falls both tied for seventh 4-3 MIAA, 4-3 overall

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                • #9
                  Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

                  Originally posted by Brandon View Post
                  For sure. I tend to think of the strongest eight or so like BoyBlue posted.

                  But in spite of what Massey says, my gut feeling this year is that this is the order:

                  1. GSC
                  2. GLIAC
                  3. LSC
                  4. MIAA
                  5. NSIC

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                  • #10
                    Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

                    Sometimes the number of losses are simply the results of scheduling. If the top teams all played each other at the beginning of the season it looks a lot different than if they play each other at the end. Fpr instance, 6-1 Saginaw Valley still have to play Ferris State, Grand Valley and Davenport. Davenport, who has beaten an NAIA school and a D3 school, still has to play Grand Valley, Ashland, Ferris State, and Saginaw Valley.

                    I would have no problem with someone saying the GLIAC is the best. I think a GLIAC team will face a GSC team in the championship.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

                      Wanted to compare non-con games of Gulf South teams v. GLIAC teams....

                      Delta: L 44-13 Tarleton State
                      Delta: L 21-10 Grand Valley
                      Florida Tech: W 33-14 Benedict
                      Florida Tech: W 17-10 Newberry
                      Florida Tech: W 26-23 Wingate
                      Mississippi College: W 31-30 Clark Atlanta
                      Mississippi College: W 34-9 Southwest Baptist
                      Mississippi College: L 34-17 North Alabama (FCS)
                      North Greenville: W 13-3 Tusculum
                      North Greenville: L 51-24 Lenoir-Rhyne
                      Shorter: L 66-9 Samford (FCS)
                      Shorter: L 61-14 Tusculum
                      Valdosta State: W 45-14 Albany State
                      Valdosta State: W 55-6 Fort Valley
                      West Alabama: W 36-32 Lenoir-Rhyne
                      West Alabama: W 37-21 Miles
                      West Alabama: W 16-13 Limestone
                      West Florida: W 19-9 Carson-Newman
                      West Florida: L 38-17 Midwestern State
                      West Florida: W 24-19 North Alabama (FCS)
                      West Georgia: W 34-3 Catawba
                      West Georgia: W 42-14 Limestone
                      West Georgia: W 45-21 Albany State


                      Ashland: L 21-17 IUP
                      Ashland: L 24-17 Ohio Dominican
                      Davenport: W 44-7 Robert Morris (NAIA)
                      Davenport: W 7-3 Wisconsin-Oshkosh (D3)
                      Davenport: W 26-10 Quincy
                      Ferris State: W 49-17 East Stroudsburg
                      Ferris State: W 59-13 Findlay
                      Grand Valley: W 30-7 Indianapolis
                      Grand Valley: W 21-10 Delta State
                      Grand Valley: W 35-14 Dixie State
                      Michigan Tech: W 20-10 Truman State
                      Michigan Tech: W 31-30 Hillsdale
                      Northern Michigan: L 34-21 McKendree
                      Northern Michigan: W 27-22 UT-Permian Basin
                      Northwood: L 40-27 Tiffin
                      Northwood: L 27-16 Missouri S&T
                      Saginaw Valley: W 45-7 Alderson-Broaddus
                      Saginaw Valley: W 41-10 Walsh
                      Saginaw Valley: W 21-20 Truman State
                      Wayne State: W 31-0 Walsh
                      Wayne State: L 28-6 Indianapolis

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                      • #12
                        Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

                        Originally posted by boyblue View Post
                        Current average ranking of top eight teams in each conference, according to Massey (GNAC does not have 8 teams so I extrapolated)


                        I used the top eight because all but one conference has at least eight teams.
                        But when you only take the top 8 teams from each conference, you cut off the dreck from a big conference and include it from smaller conferences.

                        Massey gives a conference rating

                        MIAA
                        GLIAC
                        GSC
                        LSC
                        GAC
                        RMAC
                        NSIC
                        PSAC

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                        • #13
                          Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

                          Originally posted by Horror Child View Post
                          But when you only take the top 8 teams from each conference, you cut off the dreck from a big conference and include it from smaller conferences.

                          Massey gives a conference rating

                          MIAA
                          GLIAC
                          GSC
                          LSC
                          GAC
                          RMAC
                          NSIC
                          PSAC
                          I would agree with these rankings for the most part. However, with conferences as big as the NSIC and PSAC, the bottom half of those leagues significantly brings down their average. The main point is that there is a formula that you could use to change the conference rankings depending on who you want to be at the top. Just like political surveys.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

                            Originally posted by Horror Child View Post
                            But when you only take the top 8 teams from each conference, you cut off the dreck from a big conference and include it from smaller conferences.

                            Massey gives a conference rating

                            MIAA
                            GLIAC
                            GSC
                            LSC
                            GAC
                            RMAC
                            NSIC
                            PSAC

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                            • #15
                              Re: Best Football Conferences in D2?

                              The corollary is also true. The top teams beat each other up in conference.

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