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  • #31
    Originally posted by Wide_Right View Post

    Ok, Im blonde, so is this net/gross incomes for schools.??

    I wish Brandon would give us a link. Pretty interesrting.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Uwfalum98 View Post

      I believe it is total revenues from the football team and does not take into account expenses.
      Bingo.

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      • #33
        Interesting to see Findlay listed that high considering their stadium situation, even if it is gross income and not net. With them playing on a high school field, so far away from the actual University, it should make the school want to make a new stadium happen even more.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

          Bingo.

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          • #35
            Yes. It is the total in revenues from all sources including student fees. It is essentially what a school is spending on football.

            In NWMSU's case, I believe it covers goal post replacement.

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            • #36
              Slicing the data a different way gives a very interesting perspective:
              Institution Name State Male Undergrads Men's Team Athletic Student Aid
              Mercyhurst University PA 1,013 4,891,375
              Merrimack College MA 1,610 4,668,263
              Florida Institute of Technology FL 2,324 4,354,038
              University of Indianapolis IN 1,436 4,171,054
              Azusa Pacific University CA 1,726 3,653,133
              LIU Post NY 1,133 3,577,180
              University of Charleston WV 523 3,293,702
              Oklahoma Baptist University OK 731 3,164,821
              McKendree University IL 826 3,133,071
              Wingate University NC 984 3,088,316
              Limestone College SC 935 3,087,929
              Carson-Newman University TN 667 2,879,705
              Lenoir-Rhyne University NC 608 2,863,448
              American International College MA 527 2,820,405
              Michigan Technological University MI 4,025 2,801,082
              Seton Hill University PA 550 2,667,442
              Gannon University PA 1,094 2,667,222
              Northwood University MI 1,055 2,642,703
              Colorado School of Mines CO 3,203 2,638,150
              Southern Nazarene University OK 740 2,621,780
              The University of Findlay OH 824 2,621,729
              Lindenwood University MO 2,893 2,478,456
              Tiffin University OH 1,000 2,429,100
              Catawba College NC 602 2,407,608
              Malone University OH 474 2,399,485
              Grand Valley State University MI 7,791 2,376,894
              William Jewell College MO 377 2,369,555
              Notre Dame College OH 650 2,358,729
              Quincy University IL 460 2,318,283
              Bentley University MA 2,424 2,308,425
              Wayne State University MI 5,379 2,245,075
              Mississippi College MS 1,060 2,244,583
              Northern Michigan University MI 2,837 2,234,712
              University of West Alabama AL 806 2,210,206
              Augustana University SD 631 2,150,108
              Shorter University GA 502 2,106,655
              Missouri University of Science and Technology MO 4,653 2,097,740
              West Virginia Wesleyan College WV 566 2,091,561
              Tusculum College TN 688 2,051,945
              Davenport University MI 1,392 2,047,165
              Walsh University OH 732 2,028,240
              North Greenville University SC 1,046 2,014,600
              Southwest Baptist University MO 705 2,008,765
              Newberry College SC 650 2,001,825
              Pace University-New York NY 2,986 1,996,977
              Lake Erie College OH 353 1,931,827
              Alderson Broaddus University WV 513 1,911,625
              Ashland University OH 1,555 1,891,446
              Ouachita Baptist University AR 671 1,884,863
              Harding University AR 1,749 1,827,769
              University of Central Missouri MO 3,424 1,767,033
              Chowan University NC 682 1,765,975
              University of North Alabama AL 2,059 1,686,423
              Texas A & M University-Commerce TX 2,467 1,627,848
              Stonehill College MA 1,013 1,626,137
              University of New Haven CT 2,256 1,613,541
              Mars Hill University NC 542 1,606,950
              Tuskegee University AL 993 1,605,170
              Saginaw Valley State University MI 2,580 1,587,559
              Upper Iowa University IA 794 1,573,262
              Ohio Dominican University OH 441 1,554,839
              University of Sioux Falls SD 375 1,539,991
              Fort Hays State University KS 2,403 1,536,060
              Colorado State University-Pueblo CO 1,605 1,503,802
              Northwest Missouri State University MO 2,014 1,498,946
              Colorado Mesa University CO 3,397 1,493,139
              Pittsburg State University KS 2,671 1,488,760
              Washburn University KS 1,615 1,471,298
              Urbana University OH 204 1,471,145
              Benedict College SC 1,016 1,468,275
              The University of West Florida FL 3,003 1,461,618
              Kentucky Wesleyan College KY 351 1,444,485
              University of Nebraska at Kearney NE 1,715 1,441,701
              University of Mary ND 663 1,428,685
              Fort Lewis College CO 1,383 1,414,755
              West Liberty University WV 737 1,411,758
              Northeastern State University OK 1,979 1,391,445
              West Virginia State University WV 799 1,348,062
              Assumption College MA 821 1,342,806
              Tarleton State University TX 3,262 1,336,815
              Concord University WV 708 1,333,214
              University of Central Oklahoma OK 4,255 1,323,241
              University of West Georgia GA 3,274 1,308,639
              Adams State University CO 766 1,302,913
              Saint Anselm College NH 763 1,268,793
              Eastern New Mexico University-Main Campus NM 1,080 1,256,898
              West Texas A & M University TX 2,420 1,255,216
              Angelo State University TX 2,325 1,241,093
              Missouri Western State University MO 1,408 1,231,898
              Minnesota State University-Mankato MN 5,203 1,230,641
              Texas A & M University-Kingsville TX 2,682 1,218,756
              Saint Cloud State University MN 3,974 1,199,906
              Clark Atlanta University GA 865 1,177,042
              Valdosta State University GA 2,739 1,169,881
              Johnson C Smith University NC 510 1,163,282
              Virginia Union University VA 552 1,148,185
              University of Minnesota-Duluth MN 4,688 1,146,199
              Missouri Southern State University MO 1,704 1,126,070
              Midwestern State University TX 1,776 1,121,533
              Henderson State University AR 1,120 1,094,306
              Shaw University NC 613 1,085,449
              Central Washington University WA 4,924 1,065,590
              Southwestern Oklahoma State University OK 1,575 1,062,929
              South Dakota School of Mines and Technology SD 1,571 1,053,964
              Concordia University-Saint Paul MN 617 1,045,500
              Delta State University MS 931 1,039,471
              Saint Augustine's University NC 527 1,036,134
              Western State Colorado University CO 1,063 1,023,441
              Emporia State University KS 1,236 1,021,869
              Dixie State University UT 2,544 1,005,233
              Glenville State College WV 577 993,030
              Indiana University of Pennsylvania-Main Campus PA 3,966 987,788
              Fairmont State University WV 1,424 969,520
              Arkansas Tech University AR 3,208 958,963
              The University of Virginia's College at Wise VA 572 946,202
              Livingstone College NC 575 931,220
              Southern Arkansas University Main Campus AR 1,374 930,710
              Simon Fraser University 0 897,718
              Northern State University SD 564 882,923
              Truman State University MO 2,098 873,061
              Miles College AL 797 867,021
              Shepherd University WV 1,088 866,622
              Southeastern Oklahoma State University OK 1,177 861,408
              University of North Carolina at Pembroke NC 1,845 839,641
              New Mexico Highlands University NM 564 836,165
              Bemidji State University MN 1,501 822,010
              Winona State University MN 2,375 811,868
              East Central University OK 1,038 803,988
              University of Arkansas at Monticello AR 1,010 798,312
              Southern Connecticut State University CT 2,672 792,791
              Chadron State College NE 697 787,144
              Virginia State University VA 1,681 785,538
              Northwestern Oklahoma State University OK 573 772,750
              Albany State University GA 1,195 764,448
              Lincoln University MO 790 756,161
              University of Minnesota-Crookston MN 566 721,561
              Winston-Salem State University NC 1,217 713,664
              Kentucky Christian University KY 267 705,285
              Kentucky State University KY 500 697,964
              Minnesota State University Moorhead MN 1,630 679,102
              Lane College TN 735 677,516
              California University of Pennsylvania PA 2,173 640,422
              Black Hills State University SD 812 625,895
              Western Oregon University OR 1,528 622,431
              Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania PA 2,546 613,587
              East Stroudsburg University of Pennsylvania PA 2,403 610,662
              Clarion University of Pennsylvania PA 1,322 609,426
              Wayne State College NE 1,044 595,684
              West Chester University of Pennsylvania PA 5,264 587,746
              Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania PA 3,130 581,443
              Southwest Minnesota State University MN 756 575,569
              Minot State University ND 773 567,679
              Edinboro University of Pennsylvania PA 1,635 564,494
              The University of Texas of the Permian Basin TX 1,010 555,596
              Bowie State University MD 1,674 532,324
              Fayetteville State University NC 1,197 519,500
              Millersville University of Pennsylvania PA 2,463 508,472
              Lincoln University PA 621 504,000
              Humboldt State University CA 3,107 492,071
              Central State University OH 692 439,694
              Western New Mexico University NM 487 425,696
              Lock Haven University PA 1,380 421,578
              Kutztown University of Pennsylvania PA 3,275 401,231
              Bloomsburg University of Pennsylvania PA 3,371 378,454
              Elizabeth City State University NC 526 273,600
              Fort Valley State University GA 878 253,137
              Cheyney University of Pennsylvania PA 345 125,143

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              • #37
                Says a lot about two things....commitment level and cost of attendance.

                Also, look at Humboldt. The ratio of financial aid expenditures versus male enrollment has to be among the lowest.

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                • #38
                  I agree. Seems to be no uniform accounting process across that insures expenses at school A are accounted the exact same way as the same expense at school B, C and D.

                  The information at this site is what each school provides and should be taken with a grain of salt. While the total numbers might be toughly correct, how schools account for the use of that money varies wildly.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

                    I was going to ask if maybe they are in the D-1 list due to hockey being D-1, but that doesn't jive with any of the other schools missing. So.
                    saw Mercyhurst on the list and they have both M & W d1 hockey far at least 15yrs

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

                      I agree. Seems to be no uniform accounting process across that insures expenses at school A are accounted the exact same way as the same expense at school B, C and D.

                      The information at this site is what each school provides and should be taken with a grain of salt. While the total numbers might be toughly correct, how schools account for the use of that money varies wildly.
                      I was gonna ask if anyone knew how this was calculated, but I guess the answer is, "it isn't". Like, are we comparing apples to apples, or not?

                      I'd like to see institutional support separated from independent variables like season ticket sales, gate revenue, corporate sponsorships, sale of media rights, private donations, student fees, etc.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by ccmoney8 View Post

                        I was gonna ask if anyone knew how this was calculated, but I guess the answer is, "it isn't". Like, are we comparing apples to apples, or not?

                        I'd like to see institutional support separated from independent variables like season ticket sales, gate revenue, corporate sponsorships, sale of media rights, private donations, student fees, etc.
                        It would be nice if the accounting was consistent across every program, but it doesn't seem like it is. One of the things that I've always wondered is how is stadium maintenance and upkeep accounted for at schools that have multiple teams using the same facility? Is it paid 100% out of the football account? 50/50 with the women's soccer account? If there is a track around the field, does the track budget get dinged for stadium maintenance? Same question for auditoriums that house teams like basketball and also have classrooms that are used. Is care and upkeep paid for by sports $'s or school $'s?

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