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Originally posted by Wide_Right View PostIf I was a betting man, I'd put odds 5:3 we don't.
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Hate to sound callous, but I think football season will move forward. Unless hospitalization and death rears it's ugly head, major college football will push through. Let a big name player ( a headline grabber) have serious issues or a couple of players pass away (praying for neither), then MAYBE the season will be shortened or cancelled. As for spectators, that's still up in the air. But healthy athletes who bounce back quickly or are asymptomatic, that's just enough for the big money train to proceed. Will FCS, DII, DIII, NAIA, and JUCO follow big money's lead, that is a good question...
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Originally posted by NWFanatic View Postthousands die of the flu yearly(even with a vaccine) so I see no need to tie a vaccine to sportsLast edited by WarriorVoice; 06-23-2020, 10:08 AM.
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Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post
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Seasonal Flu (2020)
Season: October 2019 - April 2020
Duration: 5 mos
Case Count (High Estimate): 52,000,000
Death Count (High Estimate): 62,000
COVID-19
Season: February 2020 (first death) - June 2020* (present day)
Duration: 4 mos
Case Count: 2,400,157*
Death Count: 122,877*
*as of 11:55 AM CT 6/23/2020
Source: CDC (seasonal flu), Worldometer (COVID-19)
The nice thing is, our fatality rate has dropped significantly - however spikes in the death rate always lag behind spikes in case count by a couple weeks, so we'll have to see what happens moving forward.
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Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post
It's an A/O comparison - but here are the numbers:
Seasonal Flu (2020)
Season: October 2019 - April 2020
Duration: 5 mos
Case Count (High Estimate): 52,000,000
Death Count (High Estimate): 62,000
COVID-19
Season: February 2020 (first death) - June 2020* (present day)
Duration: 4 mos
Case Count: 2,400,157*
Death Count: 122,877*
*as of 11:55 AM CT 6/23/2020
Source: CDC (seasonal flu), Worldometer (COVID-19)
The nice thing is, our fatality rate has dropped significantly - however spikes in the death rate always lag behind spikes in case count by a couple weeks, so we'll have to see what happens moving forward.
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Originally posted by codeblack View Post
Arkansas governor just said that 70% of deaths in the state are from people 65+. 40% of deaths in NY alone were nursing home infections. Not trying to diminish those deaths at all but to look at those numbers and act like this virus is killing otherwise healthy people is disingenuous. Antibody tests across the country from several major cities showed asymptomatic infections in the population 10-20x the rate of tested and confirmed infections. I understand administrators will want to be on the safe side when it comes to students and student athletes but this virus panic is being fueled by media hysteria. It is time to get on with life and let people decide for themselves the level of risk they want to take.
In a "perfect" world, I would agree with you. We would all be responsible for ourselves and make our own choices based on what's best for us. My only problem with that line of thinking is that life doesn't work that way. Vulnerable people can't simply exit society on a moment's notice just so the rest of us can do as we please. Life is also too complex to boil it down to an over-simplification like that. There are way too many variables at play.
Now, that being said - do I agree with all the shutdowns and regulations? Not necessarily. I don't have anything to back this up, but I think our infrastructure (at least locally) has been reinforced to the point where we can start to slowly regain our normal lives back. Shutting everything down until the virus "goes away" is not a viable option, so there has to be a compromise. Have some people hijacked it for political gain? Possibly - but I don't pay attention to those angles because everything gets politicized these days.
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Major points:
1. If you get so ill you have to go to hospital, then chance of dying is 5 to 10 times more likely for people between 30 and 59.If you survive you are going to be staring at a huge medical bill.
One person spent 30 days in ICU ventilator, etc. - Bill was $1.1M. Hope folks have a good insurance plan, for patients often spend 10 days in hospital.
2. For the 30-39 group, a mortality rate of 0.2% seems insignificant. Would you fly, if there were a 0.2% chance of the plane crashing? (that would mean 88 crashes daily with 5400 deaths).
3. The use of masks is primarily to keep people who are positive (asymptomatic or symptomatic) from spreading the disease by stopping the water droplets. The N95 mask filters down to .3 microns. COVID is .2 microns.
4. 6 ft social distancing is insufficient when people are yelling and screaming as during sporting events.
5. Young people may not die but they could spread the disease to older loved ones.
6. Young people get to pay off the increased Medicare and Medicaid bills through future taxes. BTW Social security funds are exhausted in 2035 as it is underfunded by 16 Trillion dollars. Medicare's hospital fund will be exhausted by 2026 (before COVID).Medicaid in OHIO ALONE is $28B per year (Before COVID). Add to that the national debt at 25 Trillion dollars which is 125% of GDP. We cannot afford another total shutdown.
So it is in everyone's best interest, both from a financial and health perspective, to be aggressive in stopping the spread of COVID.
Here are actual numbers from the State of Ohio Department of Health as of 6/23/20.
Look at Age Group and Chance of Dying if Infected (%) and change of dying if hospitalized(%).
Age 30: .2% 4.0%
Age 40: .5% 5.4%
Age 50: 2.2% 12.4%
Age 60: 6.8% 24.2%
Age 70: 17.3% 47.2%
Age 80: 32.2% 103.4% (> 100% due to people dying before getting to hospital or in nursing home)
Last edited by Columbuseer; 06-23-2020, 04:36 PM.
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Originally posted by NWFanatic View PostI also saw a epidemiologist study saying infection rate for those under 70 is only .04%
For some reason, children seem to be less prone to infection.
For Ohio, ages 25 thru 65 have an estimated 0.48% infection rate., which are 28,500 infections.
I suspect that the low infection rate was due to the aggressive action by the Feds and States to social distance and wear masks (and of course stopping flights from China. If we had only known to stop flights from Europe at the same time).
Humans inherently have issues assessing and responding appropriately to risk that is less than 1%. See my example about flying if airlines had the same death rate. The longer one goes without being infected, the stronger the COVID19 mental fatigue becomes.
I am also concerned that many folks may have misinterpreted "Flattening the curve" as reducing the presence of the virus. It was all about managing hospital resources (beds, ICUs, ventilators, etc.). The virus is still here, and it is still infecting people in tropical climates, so it is more resilient to heat compared to flu.
Then folks start gathering in bunches without masks because they think "well it's been 4 months and I haven't gotten infected yet").I am seeing it happen in Ohio, more so in Walmart than in Meijer or Costco based on anecdotal observation.
COVID19 is much more contagious than flu. From February through today it is the leading cause of death from disease in the world, surpassing malaria.There is a great animated graph that shows the list of diseases and how COVID19 climbs from the bottom of the chart to the top in that time period. Don't have the link.
Also a very expensive way to die (or survive) if hospitalized.
We have to open the economy or we face economic collapse so we must accept greater deaths and infections. Due to COVID19 and social unrest, I have great concern that the world will move away from the dollar as the world monetary standard. Few people recognize the permanent damage that could do to our economy. Don't look for mainstream media to discuss this or our huge debt anytime soon.
IMHO social distancing and masks are here to stay until a vaccine is proven. We will see an increase in the infection rate above .4% if these guidelines are not followed.
Already happening in tourist states.
Last edited by Columbuseer; 06-24-2020, 11:37 AM.
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36,000 new cases yesterday in the US, toppling a record set in April. Now we're seeing states enact travel guidelines...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/us/ne...ion/index.html
The NFL just pulled the plug on the HOF game in Canton scheduled for 8/6...Last edited by WarriorVoice; 06-25-2020, 06:16 AM.
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