OT: Rolovich out at WSU for refusing to get vaccinated

[Wildcat Khan]

Jake Dickert has his interim tag removed and is now permanently the head coach on a new five-year deal.

https://komonews.com/amp/sports/coll...-dickert-coach

Heard about this on Seattle sports radio. Brock Huard was saying that Dickert stopped the search by bringing the team together and being mathematically alive for the Pac-12 North last weekend to claim the job for himself. A 27 point win over main rival I'm sure helped too as they had lost last 8 times. I heard the announcement as well and you could hear the players cheering in the background.

[BillyGV]

A religious objection is about personal conviction not organized religion.

exactly - clearly people who say these things have no idea what Christianity is - its about an individual relationship with God, not about dictates from anyone

[BillyGV]

My company of 25,000+ employees is mandating proof of vaccination by a certain date or the employee will be terminated which is fantastic in my opinion.

Wow - what an attitude - what about those who already got covid and have recovered, why should they have to get the therapeutic jab as their natural immunity is better than anything else and docs warn against taking it if you had covid already - but as long as you agree with the dictate to hell with the other workers and their families - you will make a good communist

[BillyGV]

Jacobsen v. Massachusetts is a very clear case that supports vaccine mandates.

don't confuse Smallpox with a coronavirus - smallpox has a death rate nearing 30% and with a real vaccine can and has been basically eradicated whereas this is a coronavirus that has proven to be not much more deadly then the flu and there is NO vaccine for it, there is an experimental therapeutic today that does NOT prevent the person taking it from getting the virus, or spreading the virus or dying from the virus - IN FACT, today there are more people getting break-through infections who are vaccinated then not, more vaccinated being hospitalized then not and more dying from covid then the non-vaccinated - regardless there is a 99.9% survivability rate for those under 25 and 99.8% survivability for those under 65 and typically those who die of any age have other co-morbidities that ultimately caused the death - do not buy into the panic porn being thrown out there - there are literally thousands of scientists/doctors in the US and around the world who have effectively treated Covid-19 since it was first encountered with NO LOSS OF LIFE but for some reason the media does not report it - look it up, you are all internet geeks - there are lots of studies, discussions, etc. with world renowned research scientists who have been on this since the inception who are stating these things - one top epidemiologist's team has studied over 150,000 covid patients and does not believe it is anything like what is being spread - DON'T BUY INTO EVERYTHING YOUR GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU, THEY DON'T ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH - peace

[BillyGV]

Those are all actual VACCINES - this covid jab is NOT a vaccine - in fact, they had to recently change the definition of a vaccine so they could try to convince you that is what you are getting - again, all those you mention are actual vaccines that prevent the person from getting the virus/disease, or spreading it or dying from it and it lasts a lifetime - something that can't be said for the covid therapeutic being pushed - why would you subject your child or yourself for that matter, to an experimental drug that the CDC won't even let anyone see what's in it for 50 years - do you even ask yourself these questions? - if it is so effective why do you need continual jabs and yet you still can get it, you still can spread it (in fact studies show the vaccinated are super-spreaders of covid) and you can still die - certainly nothing like the real vaccines you tried to compare it to

as for your first statement stating parents are the least reliable and the reason most kids are messed up all I can say is wow - I figured you were part of the teachers union immediately and I see in the last sentence you are related - one of the most corrupt organizations in the country and THE REASON many kids and the country is as messed up as it is today - NO TEACHERS UNION we would all be better off - HOME SCHOOL YOUR KIDS

[BillyGV]

Covid itself is not new either, SARS is a covid variant. Plenty of research has been done prior to Covid-19, the first identified human coronavirus was in 1965.

correct - and EVERY coronavirus vaccine attempted to date as FAILED - just like the one being peddled now, it isn't a vaccine that protects the person at all - why would you take it?

[BillyGV]

There has been no vaccine developed that has 100% efficacy. So your statement applies to every vaccine developed. Ever.

Vaccines work more effectively as the number of people in a population get vaccinated. It is simple math.

NOT TRUE - vaccines developed for the typically mentioned viruses/diseases have nothing to do with how many are taken - once taken that person is protected from that disease and typically for life - if no one else took it they would still be protected - that is why it was called a VACCINE - of course they just changed the definition of a vaccine so basically anything is a vaccine now but the "jab" is not a vaccine it is at best a therapeutic and not a good one at that

[BillyGV]

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

The mRNA technology has been tested for a long time as well. You could argue several time frames, but since at least 1985.

this is true but its the first time they have used in on people as a preventative against a virus/disease - in fact the developer of it Robert Malone has spoken out against this being used so wide spread and thought there was more chance of long term adverse effects then positive and warns against taking this jab

[BillyGV]

I wonder how the mutations effected the efficacy. Additionally, I wonder what the roll out looked like compared to the polio, measles, and mumps vaccines. I recently read an article that said there was virtually no hesitancy in the 1950's when the polio vaccine was introduced; however it wasn't politicized, and it's perceived dangers were much higher, especially since affected kids. But I can't imagine distribution systems were what they are today.

the polio vaccine when introduced was a great - but even with the severe issues with polio it took 5 years for 50% of Americans to take it - nothing has ever been forced on a population when it was first introduced as this has for covid

[voicefromthestands]

the polio vaccine when introduced was a great - but even with the severe issues with polio it took 5 years for 50% of Americans to take it - nothing has ever been forced on a population when it was first introduced as this has for covid

How long has it been since you had children in school??????

[Runnin' Cat]

don't confuse Smallpox with a coronavirus - smallpox has a death rate nearing 30% and with a real vaccine can and has been basically eradicated whereas this is a coronavirus that has proven to be not much more deadly then the flu and there is NO vaccine for it, there is an experimental therapeutic today that does NOT prevent the person taking it from getting the virus, or spreading the virus or dying from the virus - IN FACT, today there are more people getting break-through infections who are vaccinated then not, more vaccinated being hospitalized then not and more dying from covid then the non-vaccinated - regardless there is a 99.9% survivability rate for those under 25 and 99.8% survivability for those under 65 and typically those who die of any age have other co-morbidities that ultimately caused the death - do not buy into the panic porn being thrown out there - there are literally thousands of scientists/doctors in the US and around the world who have effectively treated Covid-19 since it was first encountered with NO LOSS OF LIFE but for some reason the media does not report it - look it up, you are all internet geeks - there are lots of studies, discussions, etc. with world renowned research scientists who have been on this since the inception who are stating these things - one top epidemiologist's team has studied over 150,000 covid patients and does not believe it is anything like what is being spread - DON'T BUY INTO EVERYTHING YOUR GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU, THEY DON'T ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH - peace

I was stating, and was backed by prior case law, that vaccine mandates have been upheld in courts. That case was from 1905.

As far as deaths from Covid as compared to the flu, with the exception of the super pandemic of Spanish Flu, more annual deaths are occurring with Covid than with the flu.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...u-data-shows#1

As far as your vaccinated v. unvaccinated hospitalization and deaths, you are compeltely wrong:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

The incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection, hospitalization, and death is higher in unvaccinated than vaccinated persons, and the incidence rate ratios are related to vaccine effectiveness.

If you are going to imply that you are stating fact, you should post your source. The hospitalization rate in vaccinated individuals is far less than those unvaccinated. Ditto the death rate.

Also this:

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...e-not-over-99/

[Runnin' Cat]

NOT TRUE - vaccines developed for the typically mentioned viruses/diseases have nothing to do with how many are taken - once taken that person is protected from that disease and typically for life - if no one else took it they would still be protected - that is why it was called a VACCINE - of course they just changed the definition of a vaccine so basically anything is a vaccine now but the "jab" is not a vaccine it is at best a therapeutic and not a good one at that

You are missing the larger picture. It isn't as simple as one person; the more people that get the vaccine, the more effective it is for the full population. It is simple math.

That is how vaccinations work for everyone.

[Turbonium]

Wow - what an attitude - what about those who already got covid and have recovered, why should they have to get the therapeutic jab as their natural immunity is better than anything else and docs warn against taking it if you had covid already - but as long as you agree with the dictate to hell with the other workers and their families - you will make a good communist

Please explain what this has to do with communism. I'm really looking forward to your response, I'm sure it'll be extremely enlightening.

[Turbonium]

correct - and EVERY coronavirus vaccine attempted to date as FAILED - just like the one being peddled now, it isn't a vaccine that protects the person at all - why would you take it?

This is very nearly as obtuse of a response as your Faux News usage of the word communism. Very impressive stuff here.

[Turbonium]

You are missing the larger picture. It isn't as simple as one person; the more people that get the vaccine, the more effective it is for the full population. It is simple math.

That is how vaccinations work for everyone.

You're obviously also a communist. From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs comrade!