Last week the NSIC board had an interesting (at least to me) discussion on the national polls. As always, there were posters questioning how teams were ranked in both the AFCA and the D2Football.com polls. So our excellent NSIC columnist Witt challenged the posters to come up with their own rankings. There were a few of us that took Witt up on that and I found it to be a very interesting experiment. It is not as easy as you may think. I thought I would start a thread here to see if any others wanted to try their hand. I will post my personal rankings later tonight and hopefully a few others will try it too.
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1. Ferris St
2. Grand Valley St
3. Angelo St
4. Ouachita
5. Pittsburg St
6. Colorado Mines
7. West Georgia
8. NE Kearney
9. Harding
10. Saginaw Valley
11. Delta St
12. West Florida
13. Augustana
14. Virginia Union
15. Valdosta St.
16. Slippery Rock
17. Shepherd
18. Washburn
19. Indianapolis
20. Ashland
21. NW Missouri St
22. Albany GA
23. Sioux Falls
24. Newberry
25. Lenoir-Rhyne
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That's a great idea. We actually used to have a weekly fan poll for 3 or 4 years a while back. I can't remember who started it but there was probably 10 to 15 of us who polled and it was averaged in weekly.
The guy had a whole website we would submit to.
BigMRG might remember it. I know he was one of the pollsters as well.
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Originally posted by psugorilla View PostThat's a great idea. We actually used to have a weekly fan poll for 3 or 4 years a while back. I can't remember who started it but there was probably 10 to 15 of us who polled and it was averaged in weekly.
The guy had a whole website we would submit to.
BigMRG might remember it. I know he was one of the pollsters as well.
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I never put too much stock in to any top 25 poll, because at the D-II level, almost nobody watches enough D-II football to actually have an accurate assessment of teams from around the country. In the AFCA poll, you'd be hard-pressed to find any coaches or SID's who watch D-II football outside of their own team, let alone outside of their own conference and nationally. So when it comes to the top 25 polls at the D-II level, I'd give more stock in the D2football poll than the AFCA poll, because at least a couple of the D2football voters watch national games and not just one conference or region.
Overall, it's most likely going to follow the pattern of undefeated teams, and then 1-loss teams, and then 2-loss teams, with a couple schools ranked higher than others based on reputation. But there's almost nobody who can accurately give a decent national ranking because very few people actually watch enough games to analyze like that.2021 D2Football Fantasy Champion
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1. Ferris State
2. Grand Valley State
3. Angelo State
4. Ouachita Baptist
5. Colorado School of Mines
6.Pittsburg State
7. Delta State
8. West Georgia
9. Shepherd
10.Northwest Missouri State
11. Harding
12. Augustana
13. Slippery Rock
14. Valdosta State
15. West Florida
16.Nebraska-Kearney
17. Virginia Union
18. Ashland
19. Saginaw Valley State
20. Indianapolis
21. Newberry
22. IUP
23. Sioux Falls
24. Texas A&M-Kingsville
25. Albany StateLast edited by Gliac_fan10; 09-26-2022, 07:35 PM.
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Originally posted by KleShreen View PostI never put too much stock in to any top 25 poll, because at the D-II level, almost nobody watches enough D-II football to actually have an accurate assessment of teams from around the country. In the AFCA poll, you'd be hard-pressed to find any coaches or SID's who watch D-II football outside of their own team, let alone outside of their own conference and nationally. So when it comes to the top 25 polls at the D-II level, I'd give more stock in the D2football poll than the AFCA poll, because at least a couple of the D2football voters watch national games and not just one conference or region.
Overall, it's most likely going to follow the pattern of undefeated teams, and then 1-loss teams, and then 2-loss teams, with a couple schools ranked higher than others based on reputation. But there's almost nobody who can accurately give a decent national ranking because very few people actually watch enough games to analyze like that.
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Originally posted by Gliac_fan10 View Post1. Ferris State
2. Grand Valley State
3. Angelo State
4. Ouachita Baptist
5. Colorado School of Mines
6.Pittsburg State
7. Delta State
8. West Georgia
9. Shepherd
10.Northwest Missouri State
11. Harding
12. Augustana
13. Slippery Rock
14. Valdosta State
15. West Florida
16.Nebraska-Kearney
17. Virginia Union
18. Ashland
19. Saginaw Valley State
20. Indianapolis
21. Newberry
22. IUP
23. Sioux Falls
24. Texas A&M-Kingsville
25. Albany State
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Originally posted by Gliac_fan10 View Post1. Ferris State
2. Grand Valley State
3. Angelo State
4. Ouachita Baptist
5. Colorado School of Mines
6.Pittsburg State
7. Delta State
8. West Georgia
9. Shepherd
10.Northwest Missouri State
11. Harding
12. Augustana
13. Slippery Rock
14. Valdosta State
15. West Florida
16.Nebraska-Kearney
17. Virginia Union
18. Ashland
19. Saginaw Valley State
20. Indianapolis
21. Newberry
22. IUP
23. Sioux Falls
24. Texas A&M-Kingsville
25. Albany State
I didn't have the top 3 teams that lost dropping all that far....the AFCA punted them down in a group that I think they are flat out better than.
Here's the thing with the AFCA....if you start out ranked in the top 25..and haven't lost yet, you might be in the top 10 now..as long as you've won. Mines still beats 90% of the teams listed..they just lost to two of the best squads on the page.
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Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View Post
My ballot looks a lot more like this than it does the AFCA results..tbh.
I didn't have the top 3 teams that lost dropping all that far....the AFCA punted them down in a group that I think they are flat out better than.
Here's the thing with the AFCA....if you start out ranked in the top 25..and haven't lost yet, you might be in the top 10 now..as long as you've won. Mines still beats 90% of the teams listed..they just lost to two of the best squads on the page.
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Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post
I would tap the breaks on Kingsville. Their first two games were against non D2 high school competition and the other two games were against mediocre teams at best.
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Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View Post
My ballot looks a lot more like this than it does the AFCA results..tbh.
I didn't have the top 3 teams that lost dropping all that far....the AFCA punted them down in a group that I think they are flat out better than.
Here's the thing with the AFCA....if you start out ranked in the top 25..and haven't lost yet, you might be in the top 10 now..as long as you've won. Mines still beats 90% of the teams listed..they just lost to two of the best squads on the page.
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