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  • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    So now you’re not fully funded in foosball? You are all over the place.

    It would be interesting to get real numbers for each school. It’s a yearly topic of discussion in the Pee Sack forum.
    I said they're not fully funded in *all sports*

    There are sports at GV which are not operating at the allotted maximum D2 scholarship amount. Baseball has never been at the full scholarship amount.
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    • Now we get to see the real nation. It's fun to watch. I can't wait for the memes to start.

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      • Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
        SR1 teams have had a huge fund raising advantage for a long time with teams getting free rides to the semis and have not capitalized on it. Do you really think it was easier for UNK to go from 18 schollies to near full funding while getting their arses stomped every week in the MIAA than for IUP to do it while skipping into the playoffs every year?
        Its all self reported on what the school calls fully funded anyways. 36 Out of state scholarships would amount to what? 350k per semester just for tuition alone?

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        • Originally posted by GorillaTeacher View Post

          Playoff bids are for the ENTITLED, if they weren't every school would be awarded a birth. Not everyone gets to play for championships.They all have the same opportunity to fund raise and charge fees like every other school. They CHOSE not to.
          So you are saying IUP has come out publicly in saying they choose to not to fully fund?



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          • Originally posted by GorillaTeacher View Post

            Playoff bids are for the ENTITLED, if they weren't every school would be awarded a birth. Not everyone gets to play for championships.They all have the same opportunity to fund raise and charge fees like every other school. They CHOSE not to.
            It's berth, and nation has no idea what entitled means.

            If the state (KS) who was a laughing stock for starving academics and nearly going broke in an attempt to bring back trickle down, is doing a better job with collegiate funding than your state, you probably need to be taking a serious look at what's really going on.

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            • Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
              SR1 teams have had a huge fund raising advantage for a long time with teams getting free rides to the semis and have not capitalized on it. Do you really think it was easier for UNK to go from 18 schollies to near full funding while getting their arses stomped every week in the MIAA than for IUP to do it while skipping into the playoffs every year?
              ...and they still can't win the MIAA...nor will they ever.

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              • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                So you are saying IUP has come out publicly in saying they choose to not to fully fund?


                They choose to play in a division they can't fund. That's a fact.

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                • Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

                  They choose to play in a division they can't fund. That's a fact.
                  It's just funny to see the irony in this conversation lol. Schools which choose not to and/or can't fund scholarships to the maximum allotted amount want other schools to spend MORE money to move UP, rather than those people realizing there's a much easier solution to their issue by just moving down, which saves them even more money lol.
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                  • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                    So you are saying IUP has come out publicly in saying they choose to not to fully fund?


                    It's implicit in their actions. You're not sanctioned by the NCAA to not allow the full 36, the only other reason is that you chose not to do what it takes to offer the full equivalencies.

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                    • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                      ...and they still can't win the MIAA...nor will they ever.
                      2021 they took second.

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                      • Is the PSAC one of those conferences that does not allow teams to fully fund like the RMAC used to be?

                        I honestly don't know and am asking.

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                        • Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

                          I didn't say they were, and honestly don't know if they are. I know they work hard to fund raise (sometimes too hard in that they have alienated the locals,, etc.. in search of a buck) and have at times been nationally competitive.

                          The difference is, I'm not in here fighting to continue with a status quo that rewards teams for mediocrity.
                          You are literally saying they are fully funded.

                          Giving teams a playoff bid that didn't win their conference title is rewarding mediocrity as well.

                          This is who should have been in the playoffs this year......top seeded team gets the first week bye and that would have been either GV or Pitt State. These were your conference champions and shame on the Northern Sun for not having a title game. I only picked Minnesota State because they won the head to head with Bemidji.

                          Ashland - 9
                          Fake Notre Dame - 10
                          Assumption - 14
                          IUP -7
                          Fayetteville State - 15
                          West Florida -5
                          Newberry - 11
                          Benedict - 12
                          Ouachita Baptist - 8
                          Grand Valley - 1
                          Indianapolis -13
                          Pittsburg(h) State - 2
                          Angelo State - 4
                          Minnesota State - 6
                          Colorado Mines -3

                          First Round
                          Backet One
                          Pitt vs Fayetteville State
                          IUP vs Fake Notre Dame

                          Bracket Two
                          Colorado Mines vs Assumption
                          Minnesota State vs Newberry

                          Backet Three
                          Angelo State vs Indianpolis
                          West Florida vs Benedict

                          Bracket Four - Winner Plays Grand Valley
                          Ouachita Baptist
                          Ashland

                          Bracket one and two will face off and three and four will do the same until they get down to two teams. Easy peasy.

                          So I'm not fighting for the status quo. I'm just fighting against the Midwestern attempt to make sure they get the majority of bids in a "fixed" playoff system while discriminating against conferences for nothing more than not having as much money.

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                          • Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

                            They choose to play in a division they can't fund. That's a fact.
                            ...but if you are only at 30...then the same can be said for you too.

                            If you don't know, you can't claim.

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                            • Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

                              It's just funny to see the irony in this conversation lol. Schools which choose not to and/or can't fund scholarships to the maximum allotted amount want other schools to spend MORE money to move UP, rather than those people realizing there's a much easier solution to their issue by just moving down, which saves them even more money lol.
                              Nobody asked anyone to move up . We just said to stop whining.

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                              • Originally posted by GorillaTeacher View Post

                                It's implicit in their actions. You're not sanctioned by the NCAA to not allow the full 36, the only other reason is that you chose not to do what it takes to offer the full equivalencies.
                                It's Pitt State fully funded? Can you prove it?

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