D2 football losing autonomy?

[loper legionnaire]

This seems newsworthy and something to keep an eye on

From NTV News (Nebraska): MIAA Commissioner Concerned over Incoming NCAA Proposal - https://nebraska.tv/sports/college/m...-ncaa-proposal#

[MooseLodge]

With the changing landscape of college athletics, I would rate the outcome of any D2 team desiring to move to D1 as bleak.

[zimmy21]

With the changing landscape of college athletics, I would rate the outcome of any D2 team desiring to move to D1 as bleak.

Depends on how much it values football and how plausible it is to join a D1 conference.schools in the Northeast I'd be jumping

If I'm an RMAC/GNAC school I'm teaching out to the WAC seeing how valuable you may be to keeping the conference alive

[MooseLodge]

Depends on how much it values football and how plausible it is to join a D1 conference.schools in the Northeast I'd be jumping

If I'm an RMAC/GNAC school I'm teaching out to the WAC seeing how valuable you may be to keeping the conference alive

The WAC used to be a legit major conference with good regional rivalries. Now it's just a shelf conference for D1 wannabe nomads to join until something better comes along.

[CheapSkate]

The WAC used to be a legit major conference with good regional rivalries. Now it's just a shelf conference for D1 wannabe nomads to join until something better comes along.

This is the best description of the WAC I have ever seen.

[zimmy21]

The WAC used to be a legit major conference with good regional rivalries. Now it's just a shelf conference for D1 wannabe nomads to join until something better comes along.

I'm not disagreeing, I remember it well. Still would be asking if I'm in the RMAC or LSC maybe even the GNAC

[NWFanatic]

Looks like the ncaa is getting ready to start paying salaries to D1 athletes. Will that plus nil/portal being the beginning of the end for D2 sports?

[Bballfan]

Looks like the ncaa is getting ready to start paying salaries to D1 athletes. Will that plus nil/portal being the beginning of the end for D2 sports?

And non-revenue generating D1 sports. But yes.

[MooseLodge]

The NCAA isn't going to be paying athletes, and D1 isn't going to be paying athletes. While anyone in D1 will be permitted to pay athletes, it's likely that only the P4 will be paying athletes. Anyone below that is struggling to keep a program as it is. Below P4, there's not much income aside from student fees. The exceptions might be the Big East basketball schools, Gonzaga, and a very few G5 programs. There will be a few D2 athletes vaulting to P4 per year, but not many. It's several rungs up the ladder.

One more nugget: There may well be schools drop out of P4 because they don't have the money to pay athletes, or it disagrees with their academic philosophy. Vandy, Stanford, Duke, and Notre Dame have the $$, but will they stoop so low to pay jocks to play? Good question. And then there's the lower P4 that may voluntarily drop out because they don't have sufficient income. GA Tech, Wake, Boston College, Syracuse, Cal.

I think all of the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 will pay the players, and most, but not all, of the ACC. My guess is, however, that privately funded endowments will pay the salaries, not student fees.

[Purple Mav Man]

One more nugget: There may well be schools drop out of P4 because they don't have the money to pay athletes, or it disagrees with their academic philosophy. Vandy, Stanford, Duke, and Notre Dame have the $$, but will they stoop so low to pay jocks to play? Good question. And then there's the lower P4 that may voluntarily drop out because they don't have sufficient income. GA Tech, Wake, Boston College, Syracuse, Cal.

I think all of the Big 10,SEC, and Big 12 will pay the players, and most, but not all, of the ACC. My guess is, however, that privately funded endowments will pay the salaries, not student fees.

Think Northwestern will? I see them in the mix with the others.

[MooseLodge]

Think Northwestern will? I see them in the mix with the others.

Yeah that's another one. Seems like coming out and having a pro ball team would be a bridge too far for private, high academic schools. But there will be a lot of pressure on the boards and presidents to cave.

The next domino to fall will be the 4 years of eligibility. That won't stand up in court, either. Within a few years, there will be no time limit - play as long as you want, and they want you.

We will probably soon begin to see trades among teams as well. "We will give your Johnny an MBA and $100K a year, if you take John and guarantee him $50K. He's general studies so anything goes, just give him a piece of paper when he's done."

What is going to be interesting is how this new pro league competes with the NFL and USFL/XFL/UFL whatever it's called.

[NWFanatic]

The next domino to fall will be the 4 years of eligibility. That won't stand up in court, either. Within a few years, there will be no time limit - play as long as you want, and they want you.
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Good point. If the players end up being considered employees how can you ‘fire’ someone after only 4 or 5 years?

[MooseLodge]

Good point. If the players end up being considered employees how can you ‘fire’ someone after only 4 or 5 years?

Contracts are next. Hard to imagine a world where Johnny gets fired from playing at Crappensburg State because he threw too many INTs.

[NWFanatic]

So if they become employees that means work comp if injured and then disability rating. Can strikes be far behind?

[MooseLodge]

So if they become employees that means work comp if injured and then disability rating. Can strikes be far behind?

It all depends on the state. In Texas, employers are not required to carry workers comp. That could give those programs a tremendous advantage. Much industry has relocated to Texas over the years because comp isn't required.

And then benefits for employees, PTO, extended sick leave, maximum hours worked, mandatory breaks, etc., vary widely by state.