EO - Max 5 years and 1 transfer option allowed.

[4nick8]

You mean the Real Indiana University in Indiana, PA. They named the state after it…😉

That dink school still has a 6-1 series record in foosball vs Grand MAC Valley. Congrats on your D1 MAC champion ladies basketball team taking the D2 title…and IUP as the runner up gets recognition for being the best actual D2 ladies team. 😉

Never met a Cignetti that wasn’t an a$$ whole🤣

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[IUPNation]

Never met a Cignetti that wasn’t an a$$ whole🤣

Takes one to know one…

[Thelakerman]

You mean the Real Indiana University in Indiana, PA. They named the state after it…😉

That dink school still has a 6-1 series record in foosball vs Grand MAC Valley. Congrats on your D1 MAC champion ladies basketball team taking the D2 title…and IUP as the runner up gets recognition for being the best actual D2 ladies team. 😉

Hmmm…my research shows one meeting in football between the two schools and that was back in the playoffs in 2002. The Lakers put a sixty burger on you and won by 41. Perhaps GV played them long before that when their football program was still relatively new. As for the Lady Lakers B-ball team, they offer the same number of scholarships as every other D2 school and play on the same hardwood court.

[4nick8]

Takes one to know one…

You should know that better than most on here DFB

[4nick8]

Hmmm…my research shows one meeting in football between the two schools and that was back in the playoffs in 2002. The Lakers put a sixty burger on you and won by 41. Perhaps GV played them long before that when their football program was still relatively new. As for the Lady Lakers B-ball team, they offer the same number of scholarships as every other D2 school and play on the same hardwood court.

1989 playoff loss was first of 6 straight L’s IIRC but they won’t play us since the 2002 a$$ whipping. They’re too busy trying to dominate a weak conference in the weakest region.

[Bballfan]

Hmmm…my research shows one meeting in football between the two schools and that was back in the playoffs in 2002. The Lakers put a sixty burger on you and won by 41. Perhaps GV played them long before that when their football program was still relatively new. As for the Lady Lakers B-ball team, they offer the same number of scholarships as every other D2 school and play on the same hardwood court.

They do not offer the same number of scholarships as every other D2 school. They offer the MAXIMUM allowed scholarships for D2. The majority of schools, especially the private ones, do not offer that same number. They also don't have the "discount" you get when not having to offer a full scholarship for in-state players.

Grand Valley plays by the rules. But they have so many advantages compared to most other D2 schools it is laughable you think it is an even playing field. It is only even in terms of "being within the rules".

[IUPNation]

Hmmm…my research shows one meeting in football between the two schools and that was back in the playoffs in 2002. The Lakers put a sixty burger on you and won by 41. Perhaps GV played them long before that when their football program was still relatively new. As for the Lady Lakers B-ball team, they offer the same number of scholarships as every other D2 school and play on the same hardwood court.

The 6 losses were literally the previous 10-12 years prior to the time you finally beat us.

Brian “1-6 vs IUP” Kelly. It’s probably one reason LSU fired his ass.

Your ladies team was a MAC team and GV is a MAC school.

[IUPNation]

You should know that better than most on here DFB

You mean you can’t take what you dish out.

[IUPNation]

1989 playoff loss was first of 6 straight L’s IIRC but they won’t play us since the 2002 a$$ whipping. They’re too busy trying to dominate a weak conference in the weakest region.

Your coach could easily pick up a phone and call IUP. Nobody is stopping them…

The four year series with Ashland is in its final season this fall. So make the call..a four year series with three games in Indiana. Sounds fair right?

[Predatory Primates]

They do not offer the same number of scholarships as every other D2 school. They offer the MAXIMUM allowed scholarships for D2. The majority of schools, especially the private ones, do not offer that same number. They also don't have the "discount" you get when not having to offer a full scholarship for in-state players.

Grand Valley plays by the rules. But they have so many advantages compared to most other D2 schools it is laughable you think it is an even playing field. It is only even in terms of "being within the rules".

How is it GVs fault that those schools choose to play in a division they can't afford?

[Bballfan]

How is it GVs fault that those schools choose to play in a division they can't afford?

It isn't. Just like there are a number of schools in D1 that should be D2, there are a number of D2 schools that should be NAIA. But the pyramid scheme doesn't work unless you are a member of the NCAA, and the higher division you are in the more $$$ you can get for athletics.

[IUPNation]

How is it GVs fault that those schools choose to play in a division they can't afford?

Maybe those schools are really small school that are the basis of D2 and Grand MAC Valley is a D1 MAC school.

Most D2 schools are in small towns and they play in an urban area with media coverage. So yes..just the same.

[boatcapt]

The order directs the NCAA to create rules that mandate college athletes can play for "no more than a five-year period" and allows them to transfer schools only once before they graduate without having to sit out a season. The rule changes are scheduled to go into effect Aug. 1. A school that plays an athlete who doesn't meet these new limits could risk losing its federal funding.

Good plan...Lawyers and the courts will tear it apart. It's "unconstitutional" to prevent little Leon from transferring four times in a seven-year college football "career" in search of more NIL money.

[TheBigCat2192]

Piggybacking onto this thread and trying to get it back on track from the pointless pissing match above; last week, Yahoo Sports reported that the NCAA is proposing a major change to athletic eligibility rules that are broadly in line with President Trump's executive order, but was being considered before the order was issued. For those who don't feel like following the link and reading, the basic tenets of the proposal:

1. All NCAA student-athletes would have five years of eligibility starting from whichever comes first between his or her HS graduation or 19th birthday
2. No more redshirts (including medical) or hardship waivers with only three potential exemptions being considered:
   1. Religions Missions
   2. Military Service
   3. Maternity Leave

It's not clear what graduation date/age would be used for internationals with different amateur systems (i.e. those who participate in a development academy or play for a 16/18/20U affiliate of a professional team), or whether this would give extra eligibility to current fourth year players that would otherwise be out. It also doesn't change anything about transfer policy.

I think this is a solid proposal for a few reasons:

1. Medical redshirts and hardship waivers were always a mistake in my eyes, as anything granted on a case-by-case basis, especially retroactively, is just asking to get sued if the decisions are different, and we've seen this play out multiple times with cases like Trinidad Chambliss.
2. A blanket five years indirectly solves the JUCO and NAIA eligibility questions.
3. Redshirts are borderline pointless in the open transfer era, and even if the rules rollback to a single transfer, it's still more and more difficult to get guys to stay when they don't play.
4. Five years is more reflective of how long it takes many students to get a degree between factors like transfers, major changes, time demands for student-athletes, and plain bad luck in class selection or pre-reqs.
5. Five years serves as a de facto age limit of 24 (presumably with a bit of wiggle room for student athletes who start a fifth season at 23 and 9-10 months and turn 24, although that's yet to be determined), which would bring intercollegiate athletics back to being primarily for normally aged college students.

The biggest change I would make to this proposal would be to get rid of all the proposed exemptions, or at least cut out the religious and military exemptions. The religious mission exemption is just begging to get sued by someone who's irreligious, adheres to a faith without mission practices, or even someone who feels they were wrongly denied a mission exemption. The military service exemption would likely be such a small number of people that I don't think it's worth making an exemption for, especially for those who might not even leave the states in their enlistment. Maternity is the only one I see as maybe worthwhile, and I would change it to maternity OR paternity to avoid being sued by a male student-athlete who fathers a child, and would reasonably like time away to help care for him or her.