EO - Max 5 years and 1 transfer option allowed.

[IUPNation]

I also don't understand the out of state thing. Why can't private schools offer reduced tuition to certain areas? Is it an NCAA rule, or do they just refuse to do it?

A lot of small private schools barely have money to stay open.

Mercyhurst's folly going D1 when they could barely compete in D2 will either bankrupt the place or they will be begging the GMAC to take them in when they have to come back to D2, because the Pee Sack won't take them back after how they left.

[Predatory Primates]

Nobody who roots for a Pee Sack school is complaining that schools like your spend most of their athletic budget on foosball while our schools offer sports yours do not....the missions of athletic departments in the Pee Sack are not the same as those in the MIAA. IUP tried...got punished for it by the rest of the league and that was that.

What we hate hearing is how we suck and we don't belong and only certain schools should only get playoff bids and the 8th place school in the MIAA or GLIAC conference would dominate ours...it the wanker wagging they we can live without.

I remember when IUP had some great teams.

Pitt is a track school, not a football school, and has been for quite a while. As for the MIAA, they haven't had a true contender in football for at least 3 or 4 years, and the conference as a whole has been kind of soft the last couple.

Pitt is slowly adding sports, but some just won't ever be a thing due to their regionality. Lacrosse, Hockey, men's volleyball, gymnastics, etc... Those sports just don't really exist around here at any level. No Pitt donors GAF about those sports, so I don't think they should ever happen. It would be like NYU adding a rodeo team, or Arizona state trying to add surfing.

[IUPNation]

I remember when IUP had some great teams.

Pitt is a track school, not a football school, and has been for quite a while. As for the MIAA, they haven't had a true contender in football for at least 3 or 4 years, and the conference as a whole has been kind of soft the last couple.

Pitt is slowly adding sports, but some just won't ever be a thing due to their regionality. Lacrosse, Hockey, men's volleyball, gymnastics, etc... Those sports just don't really exist around here at any level. No Pitt donors GAF about those sports, so I don't think they should ever happen. It would be like NYU adding a rodeo team, or Arizona state trying to add surfing.

Exactly. The Pee Sack offers Lacrosse and Field Hockey. The D2 Field Hockey playoffs are just the Pee Sack playoffs again with a few NE10 schools invited to the party.

Some Pee Sack schools are D1 in wrestling...so resources go to that.

West Chester offers 17 or 18 sports...while on average most D2 schools offer 10 or 11.

It's why they do this level regionally...because it gives weaker regions something to play for in region even they get splattered in the Final Four...

However.....the Pee Sack was not weak in basketball this year.

[Bballfan]

I also don't understand the out of state thing. Why can't private schools offer reduced tuition to certain areas? Is it an NCAA rule, or do they just refuse to do it?

Private schools are not exactly rolling in money to do that. State subsidized schools on the other hand can offer tuition discounts to all in-state students. It is just what some states do. As someone pointed out for instance, if you graduated from a Detroit high school, you can go to Wayne State (MI) tuition free. That doesn't cover room and board of course, but if they wanted to bring in say 20 football players from the Detroit and put them on the team, they wouldn't eat up one of their allocated athletic scholarships. Therefore more money to give other players. Just how the game can be played. Wayne State isn't very good doing it, but Ferris State on the other hand....

[Predatory Primates]

Private schools are not exactly rolling in money to do that. State subsidized schools on the other hand can offer tuition discounts to all in-state students. It is just what some states do. As someone pointed out for instance, if you graduated from a Detroit high school, you can go to Wayne State (MI) tuition free. That doesn't cover room and board of course, but if they wanted to bring in say 20 football players from the Detroit and put them on the team, they wouldn't eat up one of their allocated athletic scholarships. Therefore more money to give other players. Just how the game can be played. Wayne State isn't very good doing it, but Ferris State on the other hand....

So is it fair to say that it's a matter of financial philosophy.

Charging less to draw in customers and make money through volume vs. Charging a smaller number of customers at the highest price point that the marketwill bear. Both approaches can work.

Heck, Pitt does in state tuition for like 38 different states trying to get enrollment back up.

[IUPNation]

Private schools are not exactly rolling in money to do that. State subsidized schools on the other hand can offer tuition discounts to all in-state students. It is just what some states do. As someone pointed out for instance, if you graduated from a Detroit high school, you can go to Wayne State (MI) tuition free. That doesn't cover room and board of course, but if they wanted to bring in say 20 football players from the Detroit and put them on the team, they wouldn't eat up one of their allocated athletic scholarships. Therefore more money to give other players. Just how the game can be played. Wayne State isn't very good doing it, but Ferris State on the other hand....

Obviously Pennsylvania is not doing that....................

[IUPNation]

So is it fair to say that it's a matter of financial philosophy.

Charging less to draw in customers and make money through volume vs. Charging a smaller number of customers at the highest price point that the marketwill bear. Both approaches can work.

Heck, Pitt does in state tuition for like 38 different states trying to get enrollment back up.

What did the other 12 states do to piss them off to not get the in state rate?

[Predatory Primates]

What did the other 12 states do to piss them off to not get the in state rate?

Lol. I have wondered the same thing.