Wow, if he's gone then for sure MARTY ball is over at Mercyhurst. Loser in 2 division PSAC and GLIAC and still a loser, but he can beat the below average teams sometimes. This decision shouldn't be hard at all for Mercyhurst AD. Actually MARTY should just resign and save the AD the decision, this is the last year of his contract anyway.
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Originally posted by Bloom2005 View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if the BU "opened" head coach position isn't already lined up for someone. I'm pretty sure the firing was done knowing that a replacement coach was ready to take over the program. The national search is just politics/union requirements.
I hope its a former Hale assistant coach.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Got me. Sometimes I just throw a trial balloon out there. What I was thinking is that his experience is in Communications within Athletics. This coaching move seems more like an on-field performance issue to me. Are they more concerned with how it looks? PR?
Maybe I'm old-fashioned in thinking that AD's are most frequently former coaches. According to the article in the link below coaching is still a common path to the AD job. But it cites finance/fundraising, communications and marketing as common backgrounds for recent AD hires. Of course, the article is about D1 AD's. Thought you might find it interesting.
https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...ng-column.aspx
FWIW, the path to AD for PSAC schools:
Bloomsburg - athletics external relations
California - volleyball coach
Clarion - athletics compliance
East Stroudsburg - volleyball coach
Edinboro - education faculty
Gannon - softball coach
Indiana - athletics external relations
Kutztown - football coach
Lock Haven - phys ed faculty
Mansfield - swimming coach
Mercyhurst - athletics external relations
Millersville - baseball coach
Pitt Johnstown - wrestling coach
Seton Hill - football coach
Shepherd - athletics operations
Shippensburg - athletics compliance, sports information
Slippery Rock - athletics development, marketing & promotions
West Chester - athletics facilities
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
It depends. The quickness of the decision says it was decided before the outcome of the game so from my non-athletics perspective that's not an off-field. I guess we'll never know.
FWIW, the path to AD for PSAC schools:
Bloomsburg - athletics external relations
California - volleyball coach
Clarion - athletics compliance
East Stroudsburg - volleyball coach
Edinboro - education faculty
Gannon - softball coach
Indiana - athletics external relations
Kutztown - football coach
Lock Haven - phys ed faculty
Mansfield - swimming coach
Mercyhurst - athletics external relations
Millersville - baseball coach
Pitt Johnstown - wrestling coach
Seton Hill - football coach
Shepherd - athletics operations
Shippensburg - athletics compliance, sports information
Slippery Rock - athletics development, marketing & promotions
West Chester - athletics facilities
I figured the D2/PSAC AD's would look a lot different from the D1 schools. Those D1 folks mentioned in the previous attachment are basically running major corporations.
So, in the PSAC, 8 of 16 are former college coaches and 2 others are former faculty members. That's the traditional model and I think it results in more careful coaching change decisions.
The two who stand out are Bloom and IUP. After I posted yesterday concerning the Bloom guy's background I looked at IUP's new AD's background and those two are very similar. They are more oriented towards fundraising and external relations/marketing than the other AD's. So, my point is that if that is the trend for AD's that when it trickles down to the PSAC we will see a different set of values and probably more decisions like what happened at Bloom. They are going to respond to external influences rather than the traditional ("inbred?") athletics department environment comprised of people who've been colleagues for a long time.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Thanks for doing the legwork on this.
I figured the D2/PSAC AD's would look a lot different from the D1 schools. Those D1 folks mentioned in the previous attachment are basically running major corporations.
So, in the PSAC, 8 of 16 are former college coaches and 2 others are former faculty members. That's the traditional model and I think it results in more careful coaching change decisions.
The two who stand out are Bloom and IUP. After I posted yesterday concerning the Bloom guy's background I looked at IUP's new AD's background and those two are very similar. They are more oriented towards fundraising and external relations/marketing than the other AD's. So, my point is that if that is the trend for AD's that when it trickles down to the PSAC we will see a different set of values and probably more decisions like what happened at Bloom. They are going to respond to external influences rather than the traditional ("inbred?") athletics department environment comprised of people who've been colleagues for a long time.
I see Todd as being the guy to finally get IUP's football money maxed out. Once that happens the sky is the limit. In any given year the top SR1 teams can match up with anybody in players 1-22. The big fall off is players 23 and down. That's why we don't have any football titles. The depth difference you can buy with 35 equivalencies compared to 25 is astronomical.
We've seen our fully funded men's basketball teams come real close to the national title. Cal has won two in women's basketball. IUP was at the brink a year ago. Football needs more money. More quality depth. More donors of all levels.
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Maybe the last stone was calling a timeout so early and leaving Edinboro time on the clock to run plays. Seemed crazy calling a timeout at the 1 yd line with 30 some seconds left on 3rd down at the end of the game. ...leaving unnecessary time for Edinboro. Couldve cost them. Of maybe I'm just not seeing the benefit there.
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It is from my understanding that the assistant coaches, if not kept on by the new head coach, will also be getting administrative positions if their contract cannot be bought out. Though, all of these coaches could definitely get new jobs in the PSAC or elsewhere.
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Originally posted by TJ85 View PostStill has 2 years left on contract, he will get paid regardless or reassigned to an administrative position which I heard is what is going to happen
Earnings explanation: Under the provisions of the coaches' collective bargaining agreement, Browning was entitled to the full payout of his contract. His 2015 salary for the approximately 11 months prior to his separation was $93,185. He also received a lump sum payment of $277,611 for the remainder of his contract, $1,878 for unused leave, and $48,814 for insurance coverage under COBRA.
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People have been asking where is Jay Paterno? On 11-14-19 before the rash of PSAC coaching changes, he published a timely article. http://www.statecollege.com/news/col...ience,1481739/
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Originally posted by BloomGuy View PostThe schools are perpetually horrible and five years ago their matchups with Bloom were almost never even competitive. Bloomsburg starters would not even play in the second half against these teams in most years. Now, not only are the games competitive, Paul oversaw losses to these teams recently. ESU just the other year beat Bloomsburg in the regular season for the first time in, what, 20 years? Worse even then that, Paul coached us to losses against Lock Haven in 2016 and 2017. Prior to that, when had Bloomsburg most recently lost to LHU? Before Watergate?
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Originally posted by EastStroud13 View Post
Perpetually horrible? That's laughable. Just this year ESU won 6 games. In half of the 2010s, a down decade for the program, they still managed to avoid losing records. Yes, most of their wins were against terrible teams, but then why haven't LHU or Ville had any 6-win seasons this decade? Call us perpetually mediocre, fine, that's fair. But lump us with Ville and LHU and I will call you out. News flash: Bloom's new normal is closer to ESU than the top of the division.
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If Jay Paterno wants to get into coaching so bad, Bloom would be a good spot for him... he's been wanting to get back into coaching for years and no one will touch him. A D2 would be a good landing spot.
If Bloom hired Marty it would be a disaster. Gannon and Edinboro hires dont have a lot to work with. Mercyhurst, it depends on the hire, if the alum like the hire enough, you might see a better program.
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