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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
If I look, I might be able to find it from the stories I wrote in 2008. But the timing wasn't coincidental that Gannon and Mercyhurst joined the league the same time it dropped the 25 scholarship limit.
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
If I look, I might be able to find it from the stories I wrote in 2008. But the timing wasn't coincidental that Gannon and Mercyhurst joined the league the same time it dropped the 25 scholarship limit.
https://archive.triblive.com/news/ps...high-priority/
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
Eh, not really. It wasn't long before Gannon and Mercyhurst joined the league that the PSAC was teaming up with the RMAC to propose legislation that all D2 schools get capped at 25. It obviously failed.
At the 2005 NCAA Convention, the Pennsylvania State and Rocky Mountain Athletic Conferences sponsored legislation to reduce the number of equivalencies from 36 to 24, the approximate scholarship average for Division II football programs.
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Originally posted by Horror Child View Post
From the blueprint for a new level of competitive football in the NCAA divisional membership structure in 2006:
The remainder of the blueprint was developing two different championships within D2, one for schools offering up to 18 or 20 (the limit hadn't been finalized) and one for up to 36. Really no different than D1 is today with FCS and FBS.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
Is this the poor little West Chester argument again? Until you see ALL the funds these teams are putting in to football then the scholarship posted number is irrelevant. It tells a portion of the story.
SRU's starting RB this year (SH transfer) was put on a full academic ride. That stuff doesn't show up in this yearly discussion. It's not a loophole as it's legal. Find really good, smart players and you can get real creative with how much they get.
After the first semester, this kid quit the swim team (he never wanted to swim in the first place). But neither St. Vincent nor the swim coach could do anything with the academic scholarship. The fine print said all he had to do was maintain a 3.5 every semester and he would go to school for free. He graduated with a 4.0.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
Hasn't the long excuse out of Erie been that they have to recruit to higher academic standards than us lowly 'state schools' ? (true or not ...)
Mercyhurst may be the case, too, where being around .500 seems fine and dandy. They put a lot of emphasis on other wrestling, hockey and men's basketball.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
Here's working the system... A guy I went to high school with was brilliant. Incredibly smart. Also was a really good swimmer. He had a number of schools recruiting him across all levels of college athletics. He really wanted to go to St. Vincent for a specific academic program. He had no interest in swimming, but they were recruiting him. Obviously D3 schools can't offer athletic scholarships. The deal the coach worked out for him was that he managed to get him on a full academic scholarship - almost everything paid for - if he came to St. Vincent to swim. So he said yes.
After the first semester, this kid quit the swim team (he never wanted to swim in the first place). But neither St. Vincent nor the swim coach could do anything with the academic scholarship. The fine print said all he had to do was maintain a 3.5 every semester and he would go to school for free. He graduated with a 4.0.
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Originally posted by Horror Child View PostThe remainder of the blueprint was developing two different championships within D2, one for schools offering up to 18 or 20 (the limit hadn't been finalized) and one for up to 36. Really no different than D1 is today with FCS and FBS.
Again, remember this is from 2006.
Again, 2006.
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
Here's the text from a story I wrote in May of 2006:
Again, remember this is from 2006.
Again, 2006.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View PostWe talk about the football scholarships offered by each school but this raises the question in my mind of which, if any, PSAC schools actually offer the league maximum 70 athletic scholarships across all sports. Does IUP? Does anybody? If a school is at that limit then that is a constraint on the number of football scholarships that can be offered.
According to the most recent numbers I have (2018-19), only the three privates offered more than 70 total scholarships: Mercyhurst (114.42), Gannon (91.28) and Seton Hill (82.69). Now, those numbers only include PSAC-sanctioned sports, so they're higher if you include things like hockey, wrestling and water polo.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
That's an excellent article with the perspectives from the key people in the PSAC at the time. We talk about the football scholarships offered by each school but this raises the question in my mind of which, if any, PSAC schools actually offer the league maximum 70 athletic scholarships across all sports. Does IUP? Does anybody? If a school is at that limit then that is a constraint on the number of football scholarships that can be offered.
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
Here's the text from a story I wrote in May of 2006:
Again, remember this is from 2006.
Again, 2006.
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