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  • #16
    Originally posted by Horror Child View Post

    On what grounds?
    You don't see potential gender bias discrimination suits over this?
    Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post

      You don't see potential gender bias discrimination suits over this?
      As long as it's proportional to campus enrollment they wouldn't have much of a case.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
        As long as it's proportional to campus enrollment they wouldn't have much of a case.
        Right. And football has always been a huge Title IX factor due to a team's roster size.

        In 2013, Temple dropped baseball and softball, men's and women's rowing, men's gymnastics, men's indoor track and field and men's outdoor track and field. The motivation was a reduction in costs, but three more men's sports were dropped than women's, so there was obviously some Title IX alignment there as they retained women's gymnastics and women's indoor and outdoor track and field.

        Last edited by Horror Child; 05-01-2020, 06:05 AM.

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        • #19
          To the original thread...Wow, talk about having absolutely NO understanding of what challenges colleges are facing. Their challenge is NOT making fans happy. Their challenge is filling seats in the classroom. So expect expanding, not contracting of sports. More sports give more students more opportunities to compete. If you haven't noticed, it's now the entire model for D II...Wake up and wash your hands...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post
            To the original thread...Wow, talk about having absolutely NO understanding of what challenges colleges are facing. Their challenge is NOT making fans happy. Their challenge is filling seats in the classroom. So expect expanding, not contracting of sports. More sports give more students more opportunities to compete. If you haven't noticed, it's now the entire model for D II...Wake up and wash your hands...
            More sports (non-revenue) at the D2 level also means more enrolled students paying their own way - exactly what every camous needs right now.

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            • #21
              I have two questions: one, who has a nicer field in Lancaster County? I am just wondering, I went to Millersville twice for football games, and it was nice, but it was when they had grass. I should also point out, I am not from that area, I went to IUP and honestly don't know what schools are around that area. Two, since most women's sports don't bring in as much money as the men, shouldn't they be the first to go? The only women's sport I can think of that would bring in money would be women's basketball.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post
                To the original thread...Wow, talk about having absolutely NO understanding of what challenges colleges are facing. Their challenge is NOT making fans happy. Their challenge is filling seats in the classroom. So expect expanding, not contracting of sports. More sports give more students more opportunities to compete. If you haven't noticed, it's now the entire model for D II...Wake up and wash your hands...
                Just woke up and realized that , oh by the way, the shortage of students has been created by the colleges because they priced themselves out of business and students. Really, why would any non-athlete go to a campus for the first two years, and pay the freight, when they could live at home, go to community college, work, and save a ton of money? That's why the classrooms and dorms are not filled. So, the people we are counting on created the problem, and now they're going to solve it? So, adding sports is going to solve that? . It's bigger than adding sports. Besides, who cares what the current D2 model is? The original thread was about PSAC football , and creating a conference of state schools that would be even more competitive with deeper rosters via fewer teams and equal out of state recruitment.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tdobson View Post
                  I have two questions: one, who has a nicer field in Lancaster County? I am just wondering, I went to Millersville twice for football games, and it was nice, but it was when they had grass. I should also point out, I am not from that area, I went to IUP and honestly don't know what schools are around that area. Two, since most women's sports don't bring in as much money as the men, shouldn't they be the first to go? The only women's sport I can think of that would bring in money would be women's basketball.
                  The Ville has a turf game field, and a turf practice field. Very nice setup.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Tdobson View Post
                    I have two questions: one, who has a nicer field in Lancaster County? I am just wondering, I went to Millersville twice for football games, and it was nice, but it was when they had grass. I should also point out, I am not from that area, I went to IUP and honestly don't know what schools are around that area. Two, since most women's sports don't bring in as much money as the men, shouldn't they be the first to go? The only women's sport I can think of that would bring in money would be women's basketball.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tdobson View Post
                      [S]ince most women's sports don't bring in as much money as the men, shouldn't they be the first to go? The only women's sport I can think of that would bring in money would be women's basketball.
                      The problem is the federal Title IX formulas would be called into question if a disproportionate amount of women's sports are cut compared to men's sports.
                      Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post

                        The problem is the federal Title IX formulas would be called into question if a disproportionate amount of women's sports are cut compared to men's sports.
                        Correct. Tdobson is thinking logically but unfortunately Title IX is about equity and every PASSHE school is 55-60% women.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                          The Dips! I wonder if The Dips have ever played The Zips.

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                          • #28
                            Funny, but the schools mentioned in the OP aren't on these lists with a Standard & Poors negative financial outlook. Cash reserves means everything.

                            https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/...mpact-11469520

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
                              Funny, but the schools mentioned in the OP aren't on these lists with a Standard & Poors negative financial outlook. Cash reserves means everything.

                              https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/...mpact-11469520
                              Does this mean IUP is the only school in the PSAC with a negative outlook? This would certainly affect the new conference alignment.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
                                Funny, but the schools mentioned in the OP aren't on these lists with a Standard & Poors negative financial outlook. Cash reserves means everything.

                                https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/...mpact-11469520
                                What's the "OP?"

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