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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
I don't see how that's much different than what was done.
The fact is there are too many schools north of 80. It’s too remote and kids from the suburbs generally don’t want to be stuck on a campus where there is nothing around it.Last edited by IUPNation; 10-31-2023, 08:51 AM.
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Originally posted by Ship69 View Post
If those are the actual total enrollments, the "My God" is warranted.
It's also becoming clear they are becoming 'athletic colleges'. A huge percentage of the enrollment, based on those numbers, are athletes.
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Originally posted by DawgPound View Post
Cabrini will close at the end of the school year with an enrollment of ~3, 300. The public schools will go under as tax rolls continue to shrink and the endownments can't sustain the money demands to Jeep the school a float. The smart thing to do would be to sale the campuses and move the students to other PASSHE schools. But that's the smart thing to do and politicians have never followed financial common sense.
It's a mess.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
No they don't report that out. Media in Pittsburgh had to do a FOIA request to get overall campus-level enrollment for this fall:
California - 2,981
Clarion - 2,034
Edinboro - 2,532
Global Online - 3,758
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
My God.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Bart, LHU didn't need to be "fostered" in any way. They were fine on their own. They had perhaps the most effective school President in the PASSHE and they were showing positive trends. LHU is small and always has been. That is not a problem. Remember that LHU didn't want the merger, either. It's hard to say which schools benefit or are hurt by the merger into the future. It is working a lot better than PennWest, though. Also, remember that Bloom got pulled in after SRU basically told Greenstein that they didn't want to be part of the western merger. I am not sure whether Bloom is hurt by the merger or not.
Mansfield was saved by the merger.
Nobody wanted the merger. Some presidents had the fortitude to speak out publicly. Those who wanted a chance at the permanent job played along nicely. Lock Haven's alumni were the most vocal but alumni have absolutely no power at our schools. We don't elect alumni trustees. The affiliate groups (foundation, alumni association, co-op, SGA, etc) don't have the money to bully their agendas. We generally don't have scion alumni who can dictate strategic initiatives.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
No they don't report that out. Media in Pittsburgh had to do a FOIA request to get overall campus-level enrollment for this fall:
California - 2,981
Clarion - 2,034
Edinboro - 2,532
Global Online - 3,758
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Originally posted by SecretlySavage View Post"At PennWest, a union of the former Clarion, California and Edinboro University campuses in the more sparsely populated western regions of the state, the news was more bleak: first-time enrollment dropped by over 20 percent, contributing to an 11.5 percent overall enrollment decline."
Anyone have that 20% broken down by campus or know where to find it?
California - 2,981
Clarion - 2,034
Edinboro - 2,532
Global Online - 3,758
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"At PennWest, a union of the former Clarion, California and Edinboro University campuses in the more sparsely populated western regions of the state, the news was more bleak: first-time enrollment dropped by over 20 percent, contributing to an 11.5 percent overall enrollment decline."
Anyone have that 20% broken down by campus or know where to find it?
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Bart, LHU didn't need to be "fostered" in any way. They were fine on their own. They had perhaps the most effective school President in the PASSHE and they were showing positive trends. LHU is small and always has been. That is not a problem. Remember that LHU didn't want the merger, either. It's hard to say which schools benefit or are hurt by the merger into the future. It is working a lot better than PennWest, though. Also, remember that Bloom got pulled in after SRU basically told Greenstein that they didn't want to be part of the western merger. I am not sure whether Bloom is hurt by the merger or not.
Mansfield was saved by the merger.
Not to mention Bloom's sports teams have taken a dive under Commonwealth. (funny stuff)
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Originally posted by Bart View Post
They could have split them up, and had Bloom foster LHU and ESU foster Mansfield. Bloom will go down with the ship trying to keep both afloat.
Mansfield was saved by the merger.
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Originally posted by Bart View Post
They could have split them up, and had Bloom foster LHU and ESU foster Mansfield. Bloom will go down with the ship trying to keep both afloat.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
They needed an anchor to help manage things correctly. Merging just Lock Haven and Mansfield doesn't change anything.
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