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  • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Exactly. I'm not saying that's the only reason West Chester is the largest PASSHE school, but it’s a big factor. Not just region, but also exact location. West Chester is a nice suburb with great access to public transportation (can you imagine how much they would have grown if the SEPTA train still went to West Chester?). It’s a good school that serves the middle and working class folks of the west suburbs but is reputable enough to pull in kids who get wait listed or can't afford Villanova, Drexel, and Temple.
    I think WCU has poached kids from this area who may have gone to other state system schools in the past to have that college experience but stayed home to save money on room and board. Indiana feels more of a college town than West Chester does…

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    • Originally posted by Horror Child View Post

      Seems like you're also assuming that those people were selected solely because of WCU's size.
      There is a false assumption inside and outside of PASSHE that WCU's size is largely because WCU "must be doing something right." Yes and kind of. Their location is a huge factor. WCU wouldn't have the same size if they were in suburban Erie or even suburban Pittsburgh. WCU was able to maintain its size after everyone's 2010 peak, which allowed them to keep programs.

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      • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

        There is a false assumption inside and outside of PASSHE that WCU's size is largely because WCU "must be doing something right." Yes and kind of. Their location is a huge factor. WCU wouldn't have the same size if they were in suburban Erie or even suburban Pittsburgh. WCU was able to maintain its size after everyone's 2010 peak, which allowed them to keep programs.
        It helps too that Chester County has a lot of students who went out of state for college and
        partied too much and needed a local landing spot when Mommy and Daddy forced them home.

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        • Pitt announced that it will waive tuition at its branch campuses for students from households making less than $75,000. The fine print is that this is final dollar relief, meaning they waive the tuition balance (not fees, housing, meal plan) after the student's federal (Pell) grants and state (PHEAA) grants. So the actual amount they waive is much less. But they'll make out on extra students living on campus and possibly sticking around because at schools like those (and ours) running out of money is the #1 reason students don't finish. Nothing against the campuses themselves (they're all fine), their locations are tough. Johnstown's location is best of the three because its in the newer more suburban area of Johnstown while Greensburg is somewhat isolated on the edge of the town and Bradford is outside of town in a relatively rural area. Pitt also runs these as four-year outposts to increase the Pitt brand, rather than the 2-year transfer factories that Penn State's branches were built to be.

          This is worth mentioning because this is a common recruiting strategy for our coaches. The ideal recruit is a good student from a poor family so the athletic aid fills the gaps after government grants and any academic scholarships. Since its available to all Pitt Johnstown students, it won't count as athletic aid and allows their coaches to stretch their scholarship dollars further.

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          • I see that the IUP College of Osteopathic Medicine has received pre-accreditation. That means it's opening in about 15 months. Congratulations to the people involved. It's a good thing.

            They put a lot of their eggs in this basket. Institutionally, I think they need to build on this and introduce a couple of innovative undergraduate programs to up the school's profile.

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            • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
              I see that the IUP College of Osteopathic Medicine has received pre-accreditation. That means it's opening in about 15 months. Congratulations to the people involved. It's a good thing.

              They put a lot of their eggs in this basket. Institutionally, I think they need to build on this and introduce a couple of innovative undergraduate programs to up the school's profile.
              Josh needs to step up and give more support from Harrisburg….divert money from the appropriation given to the Centre County Community College.

              A pharmacist program would be good to start up….

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              • That's really great news.

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                • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                  There is a false assumption inside and outside of PASSHE that WCU's size is largely because WCU "must be doing something right." Yes and kind of. Their location is a huge factor. WCU wouldn't have the same size if they were in suburban Erie or even suburban Pittsburgh. WCU was able to maintain its size after everyone's 2010 peak, which allowed them to keep programs.
                  Cheyney, East Stroudsburg and Millersville all pulled out of PASSHE Center City. Only West Chester remains there.

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                  • Originally posted by Horror Child View Post

                    Cheyney, East Stroudsburg and Millersville all pulled out of PASSHE Center City. Only West Chester remains there.
                    Most universities have pulled out of the Northern Regional Learning Alliance in Cranberry Township as well. Penn West has a government agency coordination center there but the only schools still teaching in person classes are Carlow, Penn State Behrend, and WVU. It was a good idea at the time completely trumped like most outreach centers by online classes. Its a great building in a great location just sitting there.

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                    • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
                      That's really great news.
                      Hopefully Harrisburg keeps it IUP only at least give us something nobody else has..since we were supposed to be a little more special than the rest since 1965 until we weren’t…

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                      • Originally posted by Horror Child View Post

                        Cheyney, East Stroudsburg and Millersville all pulled out of PASSHE Center City. Only West Chester remains there.
                        You’d be hard pressed to find it too…

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