PASSHE Institutions Merging

[Chuck Bitner]

Agreed. But this is a thread where those of us who went to PSAC schools that are part of the PASSHE system have found it useful to discuss some of the issues facing our schools. I get a little triggered when those who aren't PASSHE people decide to drop political bombs on our thread. I don't go on threads outside ours to talk crap. Personally, I will try more to restrain in the future. We live in difficult times.

Yes. Understood. I am among the many here who graduated from a PASSHE institution. I do understand that politics are involved in this specific topic, but I do not want to see stray too far off course.

[jrshooter]

And yet, IUPNation's post was worth a like there. :)

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The political stuff is just bad for business. I think we've lost a lot of posters on here the past couple years.

In fact, I'd say we have drastically less than we did 4-5 years ago.

I understand message boards as a whole are dying in popularity. But, the political stuff is so touchy to people it can just run them off in a hurry.


Soon enough we can argue about timeouts and scoreboard messages.

[Ship69]

And yet, IUPNation's post was worth a like there. :)

Well, I think one like hardly indicates great acclaim. Do you? I've liked several of what I felt were good sports posts over the years and often find I'm the only one who has done so. While I don't care one way or the other about the race for likes on Interweb sites, people on this site sure seem stingy with the like button.

[Ship69]

Yes. Understood. I am among the many here who graduated from a PASSHE institution. I do understand that politics are involved in this specific topic, but I do not want to see stray too far off course.

Yeah, I've appreciated your work over the years, Chuck, and we've never has as good an overall coverage of the PSAC since you left to do the national bit. I met you briefly at a Ship-Bloomsburg game some years back.

[IUPNation]

And yet, IUPNation's post was worth a like there. :)

Absolutely.

Because I turned out to be right about errything.

Again.

But it was an exciting day in Indiana.

[IUPNation]

So now the PSSHE wants to offer three year bachelor degrees which is their admission that 4 years was just making youse/yinz pay for classes you didn’t need to take in the first place….

[IUPNation]

Well, I think one like hardly indicates great acclaim. Do you? I've liked several of what I felt were good sports posts over the years and often find I'm the only one who has done so. While I don't care one way or the other about the race for likes on Interweb sites, people on this site sure seem stingy with the like button.

Im very likable.

[iupgroundhog]

I've always been amazed at how the board is self-policing. Some posters might make comments that stray off into areas undesirable to some, but the conversation always ricochets back to a healthy discussion. Don't take that for granted. I think it's when someone comes out and says 'hey, you shouldn't be able to say that' is when it becomes even more political e.g. the present conversation. So, don't worry about it, people. It doesn't hurt anyone and it will pass.

Now, I do think some comments are reasonably considered out of bounds. In the current context, I disagree that it's even "political." Initially, someone made a reference to "ghetto rats from Philadelphia." That's not political, but many people would consider it to be racist. In my view, those people would be correct. The retort from "a prolific poster" referenced "rural hillbillies." Some might consider that to be discriminatory, but then you have to consider that the Vice President of the United States became a public figure by writing a book about rural hillbillies. So, one has to reconcile with that somehow.

The ghetto rat comment has racist implications for sure, and that sort of thing should be flagged by the site. But the best route is let well enough alone. See what you've started by saying 'hey, don't say that. I don't like it.'

And, no, the wide ranging conversations on here are not bad for business. To the contrary, I think if we focused only on PSAC D2 football that would be a loser.

[Ship69]

Well, going in another direction, we see another example of college financing in the 21st century.

Faced with declining enrollment like the rest of us, Penn State has now raised tuition for the seventh year in a row. It's now more than $21,000 for in-state residents and over $46,000 for out-of-state students. Contrast those prices with the PASSHE system which our state legislators are always fussing about (while being miserly with state aid). Why any out-of-state student would want to attend at those rates is beyond me, unless their home state has no decent public university alternative at all. And yet a lot do. Guess we shouldn't even underestimate the attraction of big-time athletics. And as we know, the university is closing several of its branch campuses, including one not far from me in Mont Alto.

And for all this, the Penn State trustees have decided to give the university president a 15 percent "performance bonus," which they say is necessary to ensure "stability" at the position. In my humble opinion, it's not a good look in a year when you're jumping tuitions, but whatever, dudes.

[debergfan]

Answered

[Bart]

Anyone have subscription?
https://www.pressenterpriseonline.co...-20m-shortfall

I had the newspaper, but threw it away. Since that article, a budget was passed and CU received 78.1 million mostly to pay off Mansfield's student housing loan. The shortfall won't be as high, maybe only 10 million next year.

[Fightingscot82]

The tuition increase the system passed was enough to cover most but not all of the anticipated cost increases for next year. Most of our campuses are running thin, especially the merged ones, so they'll save money by waiting to fill positions when possible.

[jrshooter]

The tuition increase the system passed was enough to cover most but not all of the anticipated cost increases for next year. Most of our campuses are running thin, especially the merged ones, so they'll save money by waiting to fill positions when possible.

And maybe that's what they should be doing if the public wants to keep tuition costs at a minimum.

[Ship69]

And maybe that's what they should be doing if the public wants to keep tuition costs at a minimum.

It might also help if the state didn't consistently rank among the bottom feeders in aid to higher education per student. Most states use gambling funds for aid to education. In Pa., we use it to help old farts such as me. They need to develop other revenue streams, such as taxing the so-called skill games.