This has a lot of info on roi.
https://www.passhe.edu › docPDF
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
I assumed the statistics being pushed by PASSHE this week were newer than 2015. If there is a new report, I'm working on finding it.
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Originally posted by Horror Child View Post
But just yesterday you wrote that the "state released a report..." and now you can't find it?
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
I can't seem to find anything newer than this 2015 report, which mirrors the statistic in PASSHE's tweet. I'll keep looking for something newer.
https://www.passhe.edu/SystemData/Do...pactReport.pdf
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Originally posted by Horror Child View Post
I saw the tweet. Can you share a link to the report?
https://www.passhe.edu/SystemData/Do...pactReport.pdf
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View PostThe state released a report that there's a 10-for-1 return on investment for PASSHE. That's pretty significant.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Interesting results considering that Greenstein claims the only community against it is in Lock Haven. Of course, that's the community, implying both inside and outside the university.
If faculty is so overwhelmingly against it then why haven't we seen more resistance across the board?
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post70% of faculty surveyed are against integrations. Only 7% believe the process has been transparent. Not good.
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/ed...s/202104070102
If faculty is so overwhelmingly against it then why haven't we seen more resistance across the board?
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70% of faculty surveyed are against integrations. Only 7% believe the process has been transparent. Not good.
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/ed...s/202104070102
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
I don't disagree. I'm referring more to the kids in 12th grade right now. Those are the kids deciding not to come to our schools in the volume they used to do so. As we keep saying, as the money gets closer, we'll continue to lose more and more of them to the more 'name' schools.
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Originally posted by BADinPA View Post[/I]
I agree with that -- to an extent.
I was referring more to the actual recruitment of students -- and the mindset of today's highly sought after kids. In the mind of an 18-year-old, most want the name. If the money is fairly close, often times they can convince Mom and Dad to pay the extra couple bucks. Twenty-some years ago I'd have much rather said I went to Pitt than IUP.
I don't disagree. I'm referring more to the kids in 12th grade right now. Those are the kids deciding not to come to our schools in the volume they used to do so. As we keep saying, as the money gets closer, we'll continue to lose more and more of them to the more 'name' schools.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
People get in heated debates about the "quality" of the name on a diploma. But the reality is that unless you are talking about a truly name university (Ivy League, Stanford, Duke, and a couple of others) OR it is a "specialty" university (MIT for Engineers, University of Chicago for Law, etc), the name on the diploma really doesn't matter to hiring officials...They don't really care that an applicant got their degree from Indiana University of Pennsylvania or Indiana University Kokomo...they just care that he/she got a degree.
I agree with that -- to an extent.
I was referring more to the actual recruitment of students -- and the mindset of today's highly sought after kids. In the mind of an 18-year-old, most want the name. If the money is fairly close, often times they can convince Mom and Dad to pay the extra couple bucks. Twenty-some years ago I'd have much rather said I went to Pitt than IUP.[/QUOTE]
It has been my experience that the university name on the diploma doesn't make a lot of difference in decision-making for work assignments. I have been fortunate to work on programs valued at hundreds of $ millions and one in excess of $ billion. The leadership staff reporting to me had degrees from several Ivy League universities, Notre Dame, several PA universities, and institutions from all over the world. I can honestly say that my IUP and Army experiences presented me with tremendous opportunities to lead and develop others. I always have been pleased to see upcoming employees from PASSHE schools because they usually have an exceptional work ethic.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
West Chester hasn’t really built like IUP has this decade. A few new dorms and a new music building...they needed more space to store the marching band props. You have your new science building and IUP is now building theirs.
The IUP campus transformation has been tremendous. I don’t understand why kids aren’t flocking to Indiana.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
It's funny, though. At the time, I don't remember many people objecting to the IUP Housing "Revival." Sure, they complained about how the kids today need all these amenities. But I don't remember hearing that the project would price them out of the market or warnings about a dropoff in college-age population. I think a lot of people thought it would lure the kids to IUP.
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Originally posted by Horror Child View Post
NOW I remember who it was!!!!!
West Chester's enrollment increase didn't translate into a lot of new dorm space because the drop in birth rate that started west of the Susquehanna is making its way east. They did not overbuild housing like so many other PASSHE schools did.
Where can one find the academic ranking of the PSAC schools that you reference?
The IUP campus transformation has been tremendous. I don’t understand why kids aren’t flocking to Indiana.
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