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  • So, when legislators start pointing out large inconsistencies with your $$ estimates that's not a good thing. When does the NCAA give us the lowdown?

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    • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

      So, when legislators start pointing out large inconsistencies with your $$ estimates that's not a good thing. When does the NCAA give us the lowdown?

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      • Former Lock Haven pres left already.

        https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswir...0e1a5c45c.html

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        • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
          Former Lock Haven pres left already.

          https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswir...0e1a5c45c.html
          That's a real loss for PASSHE. I followed what he did at LHU pretty closely. The FDU write-up is accurate in terms of financial management, branding, marketing, community relations, and retention. Plus, in the LH position he demonstrated exceptional leadership as the top guy. FDU understands that because it looks like they created a senior level position for him.

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          • Valid but recall Clarion and SRU were about the same size for a long, long time. SRU got real hot in the past decade. Clarion is walking the plank. And, SRU is now just about the same size as once-mighty IUP (or getting real close).

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            • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post


              Valid but recall Clarion and SRU were about the same size for a long, long time. SRU got real hot in the past decade. Clarion is walking the plank. And, SRU is now just about the same size as once-mighty IUP (or getting real close).
              If IUP and Slippery Rock were in one of those old fashioned math problems, their enrollments should meet sometime in 2022.

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              • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post


                Valid but recall Clarion and SRU were about the same size for a long, long time. SRU got real hot in the past decade. Clarion is walking the plank. And, SRU is now just about the same size as once-mighty IUP (or getting real close).

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                • Well, it's not the 80s or 90s any more. Kids seem to like it there now. Odd ... yes, but, nonetheless. The giant shift in the numbers is the factual proof.

                  We'll see if it lasts. Cal had a huge spike there for a bit and then went back down. But, SRU has a much nicer town than Cal. SRU has some cool bars and such now that never existed back in the 'dry town' days of 20 years ago. It's also a much nicer campus than it used to be.

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                  • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                    Well, it's not the 80s or 90s any more. Kids seem to like it there now. Odd ... yes, but, nonetheless. The giant shift in the numbers is the factual proof.

                    We'll see if it lasts. Cal had a huge spike there for a bit and then went back down. But, SRU has a much nicer town than Cal. SRU has some cool bars and such now that never existed back in the 'dry town' days of 20 years ago. It's also a much nicer campus than it used to be.
                    Yeah I don't understand it either but its the place to be now. Its like SRU now has the swagger that IUP had 20 years ago.

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                    • Political take on the state funding crisis that led to the situation we're all in: https://www.inquirer.com/columnists/...-20210506.html

                      I did see that a socialist news site actually spun the APSCUF faculty union president's comments as pro-consolidation and layoffs. Wow.

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                      • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
                        Political take on the state funding crisis that led to the situation we're all in: https://www.inquirer.com/columnists/...-20210506.html

                        I did see that a socialist news site actually spun the APSCUF faculty union president's comments as pro-consolidation and layoffs. Wow.
                        Is this the socialist new site? https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../past-m07.html

                        It seems odd that some of the schools with the most faculty cuts aren't in the merger.
                        "The most cuts will happen at Indiana University of Pennsylvania (IUP), where 383 workers will lose their jobs, followed by Edinboro University with 236 and Shippensburg University with 185."





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                        • Originally posted by Bart View Post
                          Funny that they have a photo of a building at the Univ. of Pgh. in the article.

                          It seems odd that some of the schools with the most faculty cuts aren't in the merger.
                          "The most cuts will happen at Indiana University of Pennsylvania (IUP), where 383 workers will lose their jobs, followed by Edinboro University with 236 and Shippensburg University with 185."
                          It's all pretty odd.

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                          • There are so many moving parts in this. The layoffs at the schools are from the mandate to get back to 2010 student to faculty ratios and I believe is in the sustainability plans. This is happening whether the Integrations happen or not.

                            Then, there are the Integrations and their cost savings which will likely involve less employees...some lost through retirements they don't refill.

                            There are too many moving parts. How do you execute all of this in 1-2 years without quality tanking and losing students? This is high profile too...right out there in a lot of media. This has to hurt enrollment.

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                            • Today's Will Bunch piece from the Philadelphia Inquirer on the current state of PASSHE affairs. . Couched in partisan terms as well it should be. It's interesting that he ties the timeline of enrollment declines to former Gov. Corbett's cuts.

                              https://www.inquirer.com/columnists/...-20210506.html

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                              • Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
                                There are so many moving parts in this. The layoffs at the schools are from the mandate to get back to 2010 student to faculty ratios and I believe is in the sustainability plans. This is happening whether the Integrations happen or not.

                                Then, there are the Integrations and their cost savings which will likely involve less employees...some lost through retirements they don't refill.

                                There are too many moving parts. How do you execute all of this in 1-2 years without quality tanking and losing students? This is high profile too...right out there in a lot of media. This has to hurt enrollment.
                                IUP did the cuts this year, according to Driscoll there are no major cuts next year, and enrollment is in line with expectations

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