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  • Originally posted by ironmaniup View Post

    IUP did the cuts this year, according to Driscoll there are no major cuts next year, and enrollment is in line with expectations
    Is it expected to be in the 5 digits?

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    • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

      Is it expected to be in the 5 digits?
      It already is

      https://www.iup.edu/news-item.aspx?i...31&blogid=6121

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      • Originally posted by ironmaniup View Post

        IUP did the cuts this year, according to Driscoll there are no major cuts next year, and enrollment is in line with expectations
        Since the semester just ended, the cuts would be happening over the next month or 2 right?

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        • One interesting thing that could help enrollment is a lot of students took gap years because of covid. Now if a lot is hundreds or thousands...I don't know.

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          • Originally posted by ironmaniup View Post

            IUP did the cuts this year, according to Driscoll there are no major cuts next year, and enrollment is in line with expectations
            For those curious, IUP announced future job cuts - they'll be phased out over time. As faculty leave for various reasons the positions won't be filled unless needed for students to finish their degrees. They've stopped accepting new students for those programs and once those students are gone they'll finish off everyone else.

            My concern for IUP is that their recruiting edge seems to be neutralized. IUP was the regional research university at a state college price for decades. They also had an edge getting kids from the eastern half of the state. IUP doesn't market itself as a research university, a disservice to itself. IUP's value proposition is the R1/D1 experience for those who can't make the state-relateds work due to waitlisting, location, or cost. But they market themselves like any other school. They've also got to get creative with finding students. Figure out some sort of competitive advantage over West Chester & Millersville as well as the other similar publics around the PA perimeter (YSU, Kent, Ohio, WVU, Towson, Rutgers Camden, Binghamton, etc.) as well as the regional privates taking students from them.

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            • Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
              One interesting thing that could help enrollment is a lot of students took gap years because of covid. Now if a lot is hundreds or thousands...I don't know.
              What's interesting is that gap years for high school grads usually involve working, travel, or exploratory classes at a community college. With the pandemic, none of that happened. Did they just stay home? I remember reading an article that a lot of gap years were really just students whose families had income insecurity instead of the traditional motivation for a gap year.

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              • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                Well, it's not the 80s or 90s any more. Kids seem to like it there now. Odd ... yes, but, nonetheless. The giant shift in the numbers is the factual proof.

                We'll see if it lasts. Cal had a huge spike there for a bit and then went back down. But, SRU has a much nicer town than Cal. SRU has some cool bars and such now that never existed back in the 'dry town' days of 20 years ago. It's also a much nicer campus than it used to be.

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                • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                  Yeah I don't understand it either but its the place to be now. Its like SRU now has the swagger that IUP had 20 years ago.
                  Last edited by IUPNation; 05-10-2021, 07:48 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
                    Today's Will Bunch piece from the Philadelphia Inquirer on the current state of PASSHE affairs. . Couched in partisan terms as well it should be. It's interesting that he ties the timeline of enrollment declines to former Gov. Corbett's cuts.

                    https://www.inquirer.com/columnists/...-20210506.html
                    Conservatives hate Will Bunch.

                    He failed to mention how the Stste Related vs PSSHE setup also drives the problem.

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                    • Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
                      One interesting thing that could help enrollment is a lot of students took gap years because of covid. Now if a lot is hundreds or thousands...I don't know.
                      Good point.

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                      • I've long had the theory that if they can get kids here to visit, they should be able to land them -- assuming they are just competing against other state schools. IUP has the feel of a much larger school than it actually is.

                        But, these are largely the children of the diploma mill era -- and the pinnacle of IUP's party reputation. Who knows. It's hard to figure out.

                        When you combine less kids going to college with the price gap to the next step up shrinking ... the answer likely lies within. But, of the kids in the state school range ... they have to start landing more.

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                        • Not sure if this is original to the Bucks County Courier because its now being published across the USA Today network. 'Consolidations are good because we've gone through them' isn't a good take.

                          https://www.buckscountycouriertimes....es/4987532001/

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                          • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                            Conservatives hate Will Bunch.
                            ...and vice-versa.

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                            • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
                              9162 is 4 digits. Will it rebound post-COVID?

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                              • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

                                9162 is 4 digits. Will it rebound post-COVID?
                                That's a good question. Losing 1,000 students between fall and spring seems alarming though. Yeah there's a December graduation and some students just don't return but 1,000 students is a revenue drop of roughly $12MM.

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