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  • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
    Surprisingly positive comments from students.

    https://triblive.com/local/regional/...st-university/
    It's becoming clearer that the merger is a lifeline for all 3 schools. Time will tell. Of course, these are anecdotal comments. The author thinks there are 110k students in the system.

    IUP needs a lifeline.

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    • Not everything about ESU is bad..good partnership with Widener Law School that you can be done both undergrad and law school in 6 years. The State System needs more of this…

      https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/0...n-6-years.html

      They can learn how to sue IUP for mucking up the visiting locker room.

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      • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
        Not everything about ESU is bad..good partnership with Widener Law School that you can be done both undergrad and law school in 6 years. The State System needs more of this…

        https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/0...n-6-years.html

        They can learn how to sue IUP for mucking up the visiting locker room.
        They had a live mic on the PA System making 'noises' in the seconds before IUP snapped the ball for the game-winning FG.

        Don't pull that bush league crap and your locker room doesn't get (allegedly) trashed.

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        • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
          Not everything about ESU is bad..good partnership with Widener Law School that you can be done both undergrad and law school in 6 years. The State System needs more of this…

          https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/0...n-6-years.html

          They can learn how to sue IUP for mucking up the visiting locker room.
          Most schools have that. Bloom has it with University of Pittsburgh, Penn State, and Widner through Bloom's Law Center. .https://www.northcentralpa.com/commu...836258401.html

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          • Still a very good thing. There are some similar arrangements for medical fields such as LECOM, Salus, etc. These integrated programs should be more common for the students who are sure of their intended path. They cut down on student loans and usually save at least a semester to a year vs going the bachelors-grad school route. I think PASSHE schools should have done this with Master of Education programs and MBAs.

            FWIW, Edinboro proposed in the late 70s to create a law school. The state board of education (precursor to PASSHE) denied the request questioning the need for a low cost law school, especially one not located in a major city.

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            • Penn State asking for 47% more in state funding.....kind of greedy for not being a state university/flagship with 20 something branch campuses and $6.2 billion endowment!!! Where are the calls to consolidate campuses or even close them?


              https://www.inquirer.com/news/penn-s...-20220922.html

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              • Originally posted by only1 View Post
                Penn State asking for 47% more in state funding.....kind of greedy for not being a state university/flagship with 20 something branch campuses and $6.2 billion endowment!!! Where are the calls to consolidate campuses or even close them?


                https://www.inquirer.com/news/penn-s...-20220922.html
                Penn State is the land grant/flagship but they're not held to any higher standard than Pitt, Temple, or Lincoln. They're also not a true state university because they don't fall under direct state oversight. They're a NPO that files a form 990. In exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars, they agree to charge PA residents less tuition and to allow state leadership so many spots on their board of trustees. Most of those seats are served via proxy (the governor and several agency secretaries aren't travelling to State College, Pittsburgh, or Philadelphia several times a year) and the real business is brokered by alumni trustees behind the guise of the state's open records law. We have a duty to fund Penn State as our land grant - but there should be more transparency. Pitt and Temple can f*ck right off. Pitt's medical affiliate is the largest employer in the state. Instead of endowing faculty positions they should be creating scholarships to offset the state funding that gets yanked.

                Conversely, Pennsylvania literally owns our schools. We're as public as the Turnpike Commission (with a slightly better success rate). There are no secrets in PASSHE schools - everything is subject to open records requests. We could submit one for each PASSHE school to see how many email conversations mentioned this message board. The only caveat is the affiliate 501c3's like SGA, Foundation, Alumni Association, etc. that are legally separate.

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                • Originally posted by only1 View Post
                  Penn State asking for 47% more in state funding.....kind of greedy for not being a state university/flagship with 20 something branch campuses and $6.2 billion endowment!!! Where are the calls to consolidate campuses or even close them?


                  https://www.inquirer.com/news/penn-s...-20220922.html
                  **** them…thry get the BIG money…cry me a River.

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                  • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                    They had a live mic on the PA System making 'noises' in the seconds before IUP snapped the ball for the game-winning FG.

                    Don't pull that bush league crap and your locker room doesn't get (allegedly) trashed.
                    One thing has nothing to do with the other. Grow up.

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                    • Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post

                      One thing has nothing to do with the other. Grow up.
                      Did you turn the mic on and was it you trying to ice our kicker?

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                      • "Greenstein said it looks like PennWest, hit hard by a decline in graduate students, is down about 11% in overall enrollment, while Commonwealth has fallen about 3%."


                        https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsy...-20221003.html

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                        • Originally posted by Bart View Post
                          "Greenstein said it looks like PennWest, hit hard by a decline in graduate students, is down about 11% in overall enrollment, while Commonwealth has fallen about 3%."


                          https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsy...-20221003.html
                          It doesn’t help that a lot of PA high school students are going out of state for college.

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                          • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                            It doesn’t help that a lot of PA high school students are going out of state for college.
                            Also not helping is the huge drop in high school enrollment in the state, especially in the West. All you have to do is look at the number of WPIAL football programs that are now Class 3A and under. I believe there are fewer than 10 Class 6A programs in the entire WPIAL at this time.

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                            • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                              Also not helping is the huge drop in high school enrollment in the state, especially in the West. All you have to do is look at the number of WPIAL football programs that are now Class 3A and under. I believe there are fewer than 10 Class 6A programs in the entire WPIAL at this time.
                              You should see the roster sizes at many of these schools. I'm not sure how many of these small teams will actually finish the season. I watched a 4A game last week. Both teams had about 10-12 kids dressed on the bench. That's unreal.

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                              • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                                You should see the roster sizes at many of these schools. I'm not sure how many of these small teams will actually finish the season. I watched a 4A game last week. Both teams had about 10-12 kids dressed on the bench. That's unreal.
                                It doesn't help that many schools with small enrollments choose to field both football and soccer teams in the fall. While it's obvious that not all soccer players would play football if soccer weren't available, and vice versa, it certainly dilutes an already small pool of athletes. One of my wife's cousins was AD at a small central Pa. high school for years, staying on after retiring from teaching, but finally resigned after getting tired of seeing private schools snatch his school's players and watching the school institute soccer, depleting the already thin football roster. Even at my town's relatively large high school, our girls' field hockey program hasn't been the same since the school went to playing volleyball in the fall, drawing away some of the top female athletes.

                                It's also sad to see how high school bands have shrunk. I've seen some with 20 or fewer members.

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