THE IUP Football Thread

[iupgroundhog]

A lot of people don't get the health care they need now. I've lived a good life. I'm far more worried about young people. What if he actually puts Kennedy in charge of something related to health and they drop vaccine mandates in schools? Sounds crazy, but they have talked about that. That would be an open invitation to the restart of polio, measles, and other lovely childhood diseases that far too many of us who grew up in the '50s were familiar with. That and they could dismantle the Department of Education, replace Civil Service with Trump flunkies in the government (basically creating a federal version of Tammany Hall) and on and on. So maybe it is about to get worse. Not much I can do about that except be heard and vote against it, which I've done. Others have had their say and whatever happens the next couple of years is on them. For the second time, Trump inherits an economy that is rounding into shape, for which I'm sure he'll take credit. Obama inherited the 2008 recession, and Biden got the remnants of the pandemic.

That's all true, Ship69. He's not going to snub Kennedy. He's not going to snub Musk. Here's the brutal truth. The incoming regime will not care if we live or die.

[Ship69]

Even at your age this could have a dramatic effect on your life. The way this plays out it could easily mean you can't get health services you need. As if our healthcare delivery system isn't problematic now, it's about to get a lot worse.

A lot of people don't get the health care they need now. I've lived a good life. I'm far more worried about young people. What if he actually puts Kennedy in charge of something related to health and they drop vaccine mandates in schools? Sounds crazy, but they have talked about that. That would be an open invitation to the restart of polio, measles, and other lovely childhood diseases that far too many of us who grew up in the '50s were familiar with. That and they could dismantle the Department of Education, replace Civil Service with Trump flunkies in the government (basically creating a federal version of Tammany Hall) and on and on. So maybe it is about to get worse. Not much I can do about that except be heard and vote against it, which I've done. Others have had their say and whatever happens the next couple of years is on them. For the second time, Trump inherits an economy that is rounding into shape, for which I'm sure he'll take credit. Obama inherited the 2008 recession, and Biden got the remnants of the pandemic.

[iupgroundhog]

Can't really disagree with anything you said, but I just don't know what to say to people who can't see Trump for whom he is. I'm probably older than most people on this site, and I've watched this guy cavort around for about 50 years now. He has never been a good person, and he's getting a lot worse. With everything in his favor now he has nothing to restrain him, and we're going down the toilet if he does half the stuff he threatened to do like go after enemies, put on big tariffs, screw our allies, drop taxes on Social Security (which help fund the SS Trust Fund), etc. Since he has the attention span of a gnat, he might forget some of it, but his lieutenants this time might not. As I said, I'm older and probably won't have to put up with the trainwreck much longer. And one thing is for sure, since the Trumpies got all they wanted they don't have Biden and the Democrats to kick around for what goes wrong now. They own it. And since there'll probably be a (correct) note that this is a football thread soon, I'm done with this.

Even at your age this could have a dramatic effect on your life. The way this plays out it could easily mean you can't get health services you need. As if our healthcare delivery system isn't problematic now, it's about to get a lot worse.

[iupgroundhog]

Can't really disagree with anything you said, but I just don't know what to say to people who can't see Trump for whom he is. I'm probably older than most people on this site, and I've watched this guy cavort around for about 50 years now. He has never been a good person, and he's getting a lot worse. With everything in his favor now he has nothing to restrain him, and we're going down the toilet if he does half the stuff he threatened to do like go after enemies, put on big tariffs, screw our allies, drop taxes on Social Security (which help fund the SS Trust Fund), etc. Since he has the attention span of a gnat, he might forget some of it, but his lieutenants this time might not. As I said, I'm older and probably won't have to put up with the trainwreck much longer. And one thing is for sure, since the Trumpies got all they wanted they don't have Biden and the Democrats to kick around for what goes wrong now. They own it. And since there'll probably be a (correct) note that this is a football thread soon, I'm done with this.

I just read an interesting article that was kind of an indictment of the media. It called the media (all forms) the political information complex. There are problems with the information people get and how they get it. It asked the question of how someone as unqualified to be President as Donald Trump could be elected President. That's a good question. Yes, we've got problems now. Big problems.

Not the least of which is that the United States will align with Russia rather than Europe (NATO). Big change in the way the world works. This is what we've been fighting against for about 75 years and now we are on the precipice of embracing it.

[Ship69]

I don't know if its so much as they want him as he was complaining about the same issues they were - and Harris was not. The talking point difference in this general election was so wide it was like a primary election. Trump was grumbling about the economy and immigration - things people see with their own eyes. He also validated popular sentiment about things the biggest voting block (working and retired adults) interpret very different from younger Americans: woke issues like DEIB Harris was focused on invalidating Trump with topics like abortion access, Project 2025, and his character. She should have completely refocused to contrast with the boastful talking points

There are three big problems this election has made clear:

1) Most Americans get their news and inform their opinions from the opinion of others making big money with outrage baiting on opinion TV shows and podcasts.

2) People have very poorly developed or missing critical thinking skills to stop and think before they regurgitate things that agree with their internal biases.

3) Regardless of who is in charge, having one party or political viewpoint dominating each of the three branches of government is dangerous, especially when the presidential candidate of that side has made statements about action that in theory would be checked by other branches of government. We need more moderates in power to temper the flames of extremism.

Can't really disagree with anything you said, but I just don't know what to say to people who can't see Trump for whom he is. I'm probably older than most people on this site, and I've watched this guy cavort around for about 50 years now. He has never been a good person, and he's getting a lot worse. With everything in his favor now he has nothing to restrain him, and we're going down the toilet if he does half the stuff he threatened to do like go after enemies, put on big tariffs, screw our allies, drop taxes on Social Security (which help fund the SS Trust Fund), etc. Since he has the attention span of a gnat, he might forget some of it, but his lieutenants this time might not. As I said, I'm older and probably won't have to put up with the trainwreck much longer. And one thing is for sure, since the Trumpies got all they wanted they don't have Biden and the Democrats to kick around for what goes wrong now. They own it. And since there'll probably be a (correct) note that this is a football thread soon, I'm done with this.

[Wallst]

I don't know if its so much as they want him as he was complaining about the same issues they were - and Harris was not. The talking point difference in this general election was so wide it was like a primary election. Trump was grumbling about the economy and immigration - things people see with their own eyes. He also validated popular sentiment about things the biggest voting block (working and retired adults) interpret very different from younger Americans: woke issues like DEIB Harris was focused on invalidating Trump with topics like abortion access, Project 2025, and his character. She should have completely refocused to contrast with the boastful talking points

There are three big problems this election has made clear:

1) Most Americans get their news and inform their opinions from the opinion of others making big money with outrage baiting on opinion TV shows and podcasts.

2) People have very poorly developed or missing critical thinking skills to stop and think before they regurgitate things that agree with their internal biases.

3) Regardless of who is in charge, having one party or political viewpoint dominating each of the three branches of government is dangerous, especially when the presidential candidate of that side has made statements about action that in theory would be checked by other branches of government. We need more moderates in power to temper the flames of extremism.

You have my vote. FightingScot 2028!

[Fightingscot82]

I'll fall back on one of my favorite H.L. Mencken quotes: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

So a lot of them wanted the orange sleazebag, and now they've got him. The younger ones will have to live with the chaos a lot longer than I will. Guess I'll just sit back and watch the 'effing circus for the next couple of years.

I don't know if its so much as they want him as he was complaining about the same issues they were - and Harris was not. The talking point difference in this general election was so wide it was like a primary election. Trump was grumbling about the economy and immigration - things people see with their own eyes. He also validated popular sentiment about things the biggest voting block (working and retired adults) interpret very different from younger Americans: woke issues like DEIB Harris was focused on invalidating Trump with topics like abortion access, Project 2025, and his character. She should have completely refocused to contrast with the boastful talking points

There are three big problems this election has made clear:

1) Most Americans get their news and inform their opinions from the opinion of others making big money with outrage baiting on opinion TV shows and podcasts.

2) People have very poorly developed or missing critical thinking skills to stop and think before they regurgitate things that agree with their internal biases.

3) Regardless of who is in charge, having one party or political viewpoint dominating each of the three branches of government is dangerous, especially when the presidential candidate of that side has made statements about action that in theory would be checked by other branches of government. We need more moderates in power to temper the flames of extremism.

[Ship69]

I was shocked The Donald won some of the states he did -- including Pennsylvania. I didn't think he'd be able to overcome the Philly area.

I'll fall back on one of my favorite H.L. Mencken quotes: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

So a lot of them wanted the orange sleazebag, and now they've got him. The younger ones will have to live with the chaos a lot longer than I will. Guess I'll just sit back and watch the 'effing circus for the next couple of years.

[Chuck Norris]

I grew up in Memphis where Kamala got his start terrified me as a kid

Yep, everyone remembers the more cartoonish version of him from his WWF run, but he was downright scary in the territories. He was one of the few who body slammed Andre the Giant well before the “first time” Hogan did it at Wrestlemania 3. And he did it with ease.

[Wallst]

They could’ve had Hulk Hogan drop the big leg on Kamala the Ugandan Giant, if he were still with us.

I grew up in Memphis where Kamala got his start terrified me as a kid

[iupgroundhog]

I was shocked The Donald won some of the states he did -- including Pennsylvania. I didn't think he'd be able to overcome the Philly area.

Well, now it will have to turn to policy rather than hype. If he tries to moderate, his key supporters and all of the folks who voted for him are going to have a problem with that. The wild ride continues and it's probably going to get worse. A lot worse.

I get the exuberance over winning. But that is all going to dissipate quickly. Reality is going to set in. That's what the groundhog sees as of today.

[Fightingscot82]

I got sucked in until about 4 a.m.


I didn't have Dana White speaking during the victory speech on my bingo card.

I was have waiting for Stone Cold to come out and give somebody a Stunner

I'm independent and mostly moderate and way too pragmatic to be a partisan, but the hypocrisy in this campaign cycle was off the charts when it comes to the involvement of celebrities. Trump very heavily in the hypermasculinity and bro culture; Harris firmly in the vocally liberal entertainer category. When she was in Pittsburgh on Monday, she had Katy Perry. That's cool but unless I missed that Katy Perry is a Rhodes Scholar with a degree in comparative government, I don't care much about what she has to say. Very much the same as me not caring what Elon Musk or Hulk Hogan or the former host of Fear Factor has to say about our government.

But that's all for another thread in another board.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The United States is going to need a new symbol because it is now the country formerly known as America.

I was shocked The Donald won some of the states he did -- including Pennsylvania. I didn't think he'd be able to overcome the Philly area.

[iupgroundhog]

The United States is going to need a new symbol because it is now the country formerly known as America.

[Chuck Norris]

I got sucked in until about 4 a.m.


I didn't have Dana White speaking during the victory speech on my bingo card.

I was have waiting for Stone Cold to come out and give somebody a Stunner

They could’ve had Hulk Hogan drop the big leg on Kamala the Ugandan Giant, if he were still with us.