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  • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    I've been to the Johnstown War Memorial several times. It isn't fun leaving. Johnstown (downtown) isn't quite a ghetto, but, it's close.

    You quickly forget about Slap Shot and Paul Newman.
    It’s just sad in Johnstown. They just need to knock down the whole town and rebuild. It could be pretty there with the hills..like how Downtown Pittsburgh looks nice…

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    • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

      It’s just sad in Johnstown. They just need to knock down the whole town and rebuild. It could be pretty there with the hills..like how Downtown Pittsburgh looks nice…
      The area up on the hill (near UPJ) is pretty nice. I'm not sure if it's actually considered Johnstown or not. It's several miles 'up the hill' from downtown.

      If you want something vintage, go to an event at the War Memorial. It hasn't changed a bit since Slap Shot was filmed there.

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      • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

        The area up on the hill (near UPJ) is pretty nice. I'm not sure if it's actually considered Johnstown or not. It's several miles 'up the hill' from downtown.

        If you want something vintage, go to an event at the War Memorial. It hasn't changed a bit since Slap Shot was filmed there.
        I was past it when I was at IUP. Places that survive change..and Johnstown just seems to want to back in time instead of figuring out what it can be in a new form.

        I hated it when the student charter buses took 56 through Johnstown to go back to Indiana instead of the 220 to 22 to 422 route.

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        • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

          Who knew there was a convention center in Monroeville?
          There has been for decades. The Monroeville Expo-Mart was slowly rented out to for-profit career schools before eventually being taken over by CVS Caremark. Then someone converted a large two story furniture store just around the corner to the current thing that's now being converted to a Hobby Lobby. The problem with the former was that you had this weird thing where a road drove through the building and you had to cross said road to get from the parking to the building entrance. The problem with the latter is that there is virtually no parking and the lots they have are an absolute cluster.

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          • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

            I was past it when I was at IUP. Places that survive change..and Johnstown just seems to want to back in time instead of figuring out what it can be in a new form.

            I hated it when the student charter buses took 56 through Johnstown to go back to Indiana instead of the 220 to 22 to 422 route.
            Yes its technically a suburb called Richland. Separate school district, too. Johnstown is a lot like Youngstown and Bethlehem, although Bethlehem is more adjacent to people and stronger communities. Economy was too centered around one industry that has pretty much up and left making them look like giant ghost towns. The mafia bringing the drug trade in has made some parts of Youngstown as dangerous as some parts of Chicago.

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            • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

              Yes its technically a suburb called Richland. Separate school district, too. Johnstown is a lot like Youngstown and Bethlehem, although Bethlehem is more adjacent to people and stronger communities. Economy was too centered around one industry that has pretty much up and left making them look like giant ghost towns. The mafia bringing the drug trade in has made some parts of Youngstown as dangerous as some parts of Chicago.
              Bethlehem is not like Johnstown and Youngstown. Bethlehem is a thriving city, part of the ABE corridor. Bethlehem has a lively restaurant and shopping community. It has some historical tourism. It has Lehigh University, Moravian College and others. The old Bethlehem Steel plant is converted to a popular casino, a destination.
              Last edited by iupgroundhog; 02-15-2024, 10:06 AM.

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              • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                I was past it when I was at IUP. Places that survive change..and Johnstown just seems to want to back in time instead of figuring out what it can be in a new form.

                I hated it when the student charter buses took 56 through Johnstown to go back to Indiana instead of the 220 to 22 to 422 route.
                When I would drive from the East to Indiana I would always take Rt. 56. I actually like that road. But going through Johnstown always reminded me of Soviet Eastern Europe. The burnt out industrial relics and then you have the Eastern Orthodox churches along the way.

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                • I recently saw one of those click bait lists of places on the internet called "10 of the most beautiful cities in Pennsylvania." So, of course, I clicked on it. Johnstown was on the list!

                  AI generated, I guess. Or maybe just A.

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                  • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                    I was past it when I was at IUP. Places that survive change..and Johnstown just seems to want to back in time instead of figuring out what it can be in a new form.

                    I hated it when the student charter buses took 56 through Johnstown to go back to Indiana instead of the 220 to 22 to 422 route.
                    I think the population of Johnstown in the year 1900 was almost 100,000. Today, it's like low 20's.

                    Edit: Actually, I just checked this and the peak population was 67k in the 1920 Census. In 2024, the pop. of Johnstown is 17k.

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                    • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                      Yes its technically a suburb called Richland. Separate school district, too. Johnstown is a lot like Youngstown and Bethlehem, although Bethlehem is more adjacent to people and stronger communities. Economy was too centered around one industry that has pretty much up and left making them look like giant ghost towns. The mafia bringing the drug trade in has made some parts of Youngstown as dangerous as some parts of Chicago.
                      Youngstown has long been known as a tough city. My wife heard it called "Little Chicago" when she was attending high school 60 years ago.

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                      • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

                        I think the population of Johnstown in the year 1900 was almost 100,000. Today, it's like low 20's.

                        Edit: Actually, I just checked this and the peak population was 67k in the 1920 Census. In 2024, the pop. of Johnstown is 17k.
                        That's true of a lot of cities in Pa. Harrisburg had almost 80,000 residents when I moved to Pa. on '63. Last I checked it is well under 50,000. Probably the only reason it has that many is that the state government and some federal installations are located in the urban area.

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                        • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                          There has been for decades. The Monroeville Expo-Mart was slowly rented out to for-profit career schools before eventually being taken over by CVS Caremark. Then someone converted a large two story furniture store just around the corner to the current thing that's now being converted to a Hobby Lobby. The problem with the former was that you had this weird thing where a road drove through the building and you had to cross said road to get from the parking to the building entrance. The problem with the latter is that there is virtually no parking and the lots they have are an absolute cluster.
                          I can't recall it. I have been down Business 22 through Monroeville more than a few times...albeit a long time ago. I never knew it was back there.

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                          • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

                            When I would drive from the East to Indiana I would always take Rt. 56. I actually like that road. But going through Johnstown always reminded me of Soviet Eastern Europe. The burnt out industrial relics and then you have the Eastern Orthodox churches along the way.
                            I don't know if is a faster way to get to Indiana coming off the Turnpike in Bedford but it was just depressing to go through there in the 80's.

                            On the whole I'd rather be in Altoona.

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                            • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                              That's true of a lot of cities in Pa. Harrisburg had almost 80,000 residents when I moved to Pa. on '63. Last I checked it is well under 50,000. Probably the only reason it has that many is that the state government and some federal installations are located in the urban area.
                              My hometown of Norristown is odd. It's long been a "distressed" town and for about 30 years is slowly lost population.

                              But for the last 30 years it's grown yet the town still has it's fair share of problems.

                              It's peak population was 38,925 in 1960.

                              It dropped down to 30,749 in 1990.

                              It had 35,748 as of 2020.

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                              • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                                I don't know if is a faster way to get to Indiana coming off the Turnpike in Bedford but it was just depressing to go through there in the 80's.

                                On the whole I'd rather be in Altoona.
                                I lived in Altoona. Brings back memories. I would drive to Indiana over the old 22 before the Bud Shuster highway was built, over the Cresson Mtn., passed Mtn. Aloysus College and somewhere around Ebensburg take 219 to 422 passing Yellow Creek State Park; there may have been another road or two, I recall Admiral Perry Highway. Anyway the drive was hell in the winter. I did that for my last semester.

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