THE IUP Football Thread

[iupgroundhog]

I used Wiki for Title IX info. As I said in my original post on this topic I used Google and Field Level as my sources. I understand your comprehension is weak. And since this is a D2 board that is the qualifier I used.

As I also said, if you want to talk about fully funded or number of scholly's being the issue for SR1 historically not being competitive at the national level I'm all for it and agree. I wish SR1 was strong, Hopefully, the portal allows some better athletes to trickle down to teams in the area and SR1 becomes a player nationally.

Do you not understand that you have lost this argument?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Do you not understand that you have lost this argument?

49 Days ... and we go back to arguing about football.

[Wallst]

Do you not understand that you have lost this argument?

You mean by backing up my position with stats and information? No wonder you can't get out of own way and compete. It's all excuses and blame, not one shred of evidence. If your pond is too full go fishing elsewhere. Go to Kentucky go to parts of TN to recruit. It's not that hard, not that much more expensive and social media makes it much easier

FYI per the college football network on Twitter/X across all levels MA has 27 football playing schools, Kansas has 25. PA has 57 according to Google the college fb network hasn't done their PA breakdown yet. per Google NY has 36.

So and I understand that this is only KS and PA I'm comparing, but if you take the total population of those 2 states KS 2.97m and PA 12.97m and divide them by the TOTAL number of football playing colleges across all divisions so all opportunities KS = 117,600 and PA almost double at 227,543.

[iupgroundhog]

You mean by backing up my position with stats and information? No wonder you can't get out of own way and compete. It's all excuses and blame, not one shred of evidence. If your pond is too full go fishing elsewhere. Go to Kentucky go to parts of TN to recruit. It's not that hard, not that much more expensive and social media makes it much easier

FYI per the college football network on Twitter/X across all levels MA has 27 football playing schools, Kansas has 25. PA has 57 according to Google the college fb network hasn't done their PA breakdown yet. per Google NY has 36.

So and I understand that this is only KS and PA I'm comparing, but if you take the total population of those 2 states KS 2.97m and PA 12.97m and divide them by the TOTAL number of football playing colleges across all divisions so all opportunities KS = 117,600 and PA almost double at 227,543.

Thanks for the info. I guess the football players are just better in Kansas.

[IUPNation]

Just tell the MIAA is the SEC of D2. That’s all he wants to hear.

[SRU 88]

I know it's not IUP related but this is by far the most active PSAC thread. Chiefs sign Slippery Rock WR Kyle Sheets

New Chiefs Signing Already Making Plays in Practice (kckingdom.com)

[Wallst]

New Chiefs Signing Already Making Plays in Practice (kckingdom.com)

he gives us something we don't have a big bodied receiver. I don't think he makes the team but we will try and stash him on the practice squad.

[Wallst]

Just tell the MIAA is the SEC of D2. That’s all he wants to hear.

not just MIAA SR3. That was the discussion that I was proven right in.

[iupgroundhog]

not just MIAA SR3. That was the discussion that I was proven right in.

So, if it's not population or any of the other things mentioned, what is the difference?

[Ram040506]

not just MIAA SR3. That was the discussion that I was proven right in.

Just out of curiosity, at your local high schools do you know if they have football tryouts for the varsity/jv teams? Or is a situation to where if one comes out for the team, they automatically make the team and get a jersey?

Assuming you live in the Missouri/Kansas area or recruiting area for your alma mater.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Just out of curiosity, at your local high schools do you know if they have football tryouts for the varsity/jv teams? Or is a situation to where if one comes out for the team, they automatically make the team and get a jersey?

Assuming you live in the Missouri/Kansas area or recruiting area for your alma mater.

Are there actually high schools left that still hold tryouts? It seems about 95% of the Western PA high schools are all but begging kids to play.

My senior year of high school (90s) we dressed 83 on opening night and had 7-8 not dressed due to injury/grades (WPIAL Quad AAAA school). This past year the same school dressed 41 on opening night. Enrollment is basically the same. Keep in mind, back then, the WPIAL didn't have 1A through 6A. It capped at 4A.

One example, of course, but I'd guess that's a common trend nationwide.

[Ram040506]

Are there actually high schools left that still hold tryouts? It seems about 95% of the Western PA high schools are all but begging kids to play.

My senior year of high school (90s) we dressed 83 on opening night and had 7-8 not dressed due to injury/grades (WPIAL Quad AAAA school). This past year the same school dressed 41 on opening night. Enrollment is basically the same. Keep in mind, back then, the WPIAL didn't have 1A through 6A. It capped at 4A.

One example, of course, but I'd guess that's a common trend nationwide.

Yea, was part of my point in the question. Out in this area of the country, we beg kids to play. Participation is a real issue in Maryland, some varsity's are barely able to field 30 kids on the team. Was genuinely curious if they have that kind of participation issues in his area of the country.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Yea, was part of my point in the question. Out in this area of the country, we beg kids to play. Participation is a real issue in Maryland, some varsity's are barely able to field 30 kids on the team. Was genuinely curious if they have that kind of participation issues in his area of the country.

Lot of factors, I suppose.

30 years ago:

- Kids played a different sport per season. Too many baseball players play only baseball now. Same with basketball.
- The 'gadgets' didn't exist. I got my first cell phone at age 22.
- Parents are more hesitant than ever to allow kids to play football - concussions, etc.
- More options.
- High school hockey was just starting to take off in Western PA in the mid- to late-90s.
- Soccer is dramatically more popular today and a ton more schools have teams now than back then. Soccer has taken a lot of good athletes away from football.
- Kids are more lazy today than ever
- Football's popularity (TV and attendance) is sky-high at Major D1 and the NFL, but far fewer actually want to play.
- Many schools field smaller teams just because their enrollments have been decimated. But, as in my case, my alma mater is the same size and now has half the team.

[Ship69]

Are there actually high schools left that still hold tryouts? It seems about 95% of the Western PA high schools are all but begging kids to play.

My senior year of high school (90s) we dressed 83 on opening night and had 7-8 not dressed due to injury/grades (WPIAL Quad AAAA school). This past year the same school dressed 41 on opening night. Enrollment is basically the same. Keep in mind, back then, the WPIAL didn't have 1A through 6A. It capped at 4A.

One example, of course, but I'd guess that's a common trend nationwide.

Participation in almost all activities is down. Kids either get jobs after school or just are more interested in electronic devices, etc., than physical activity. Most high school bands are a fraction of the size they used to be. Kids who actually do play sports are in excellent shape due to modern training methods and specialization in their sport, but many high school kids are in terrible physical condition with all the fast food and a sedentary lifestyle. One of our military leaders reported long ago that the vast majority of kids today could not meet the mental and physical requirements necessary for service if we had to hold a draft today. It's not good, and the physical condition of these kids is going to result in billions of dollars in health care costs down the road.

[ironmaniup]

Lot of factors, I suppose.

30 years ago:

- Kids played a different sport per season. Too many baseball players play only baseball now. Same with basketball.
- The 'gadgets' didn't exist. I got my first cell phone at age 22.
- Parents are more hesitant than ever to allow kids to play football - concussions, etc.
- More options.
- High school hockey was just starting to take off in Western PA in the mid- to late-90s.
- Soccer is dramatically more popular today and a ton more schools have teams now than back then. Soccer has taken a lot of good athletes away from football.
- Kids are more lazy today than ever
- Football's popularity (TV and attendance) is sky-high at Major D1 and the NFL, but far fewer actually want to play.
- Many schools field smaller teams just because their enrollments have been decimated. But, as in my case, my alma mater is the same size and now has half the team.

Kids today are not going to spend time and energy, and get a beating in practice, just to sit on the bench, and play on the kick off team when the game is a blow out (one way or another). They're self selecting the players who have a chance of playing, and its probably good thing. Probably good to choose 1 main sport too. Better to focus, and I remember a lot of guys that ruined their baseball season by playing football and getting injured