THE IUP Football Thread

[Fightingscot82]

there were several, as well as the university senate being in favor of dropping the name. Tony Atwater was a staunch democrat and strongly supported it, and hoped he could rebrand the whole place, but he couldn't balance a checkbook. The NCAA got its ideas from the democrats.

the flaming Arrows ? I wonder why that didn't catch on : ) ?

Universities should embrace all kinds of political speech, even political speech people strongly disagree with. Protesting government actions is one thing, its different than protesting the political speech of others.

As an extension of the state government, IUP has to allow all types of protected speech on campus. They're only allowed to regulate time, place, & manner. Regardless of Atwater's personal inclinations, he had to be neutral on the job. This Trump event is a little different because its technically a rental. They can decline a rental with a legitimate reason. Trump had asked Slippery Rock if he could hold a rally there as his grand return to Butler County but they declined due to space and parking.

[IUPNation]

there were several, as well as the university senate being in favor of dropping the name. Tony Atwater was a staunch democrat and strongly supported it, and hoped he could rebrand the whole place, but he couldn't balance a checkbook. The NCAA got its ideas from the democrats.

the flaming Arrows ? I wonder why that didn't catch on : ) ?

Universities should embrace all kinds of political speech, even political speech people strongly disagree with. Protesting government actions is one thing, its different than protesting the political speech of others.

He wasn’t invited by the University to speak.

I’m going to laugh my ass off when he doesn’t pay the bill and the University and Indiana taxpayers are left holding the bag. You reap what you sow.

[IUPNation]

Especially if the bill doesn't get paid...

You know it won’t be paid.

[ironmaniup]

There was never one protest on the IUP campus about being the IUP Indians.

there were several, as well as the university senate being in favor of dropping the name. Tony Atwater was a staunch democrat and strongly supported it, and hoped he could rebrand the whole place, but he couldn't balance a checkbook. The NCAA got its ideas from the democrats.

IUP couldn't pay the bribe to the NCAA like Flori-duh State could to keep their mascot and Seminole War Chant. During the Self Inflicted IUP Identity Crisis of 1986...the vast majority did not support the attempt to change from Indians to the Flaming Arrows.

the flaming Arrows ? I wonder why that didn't catch on : ) ?

IUP needs to do better.

Universities should embrace all kinds of political speech, even political speech people strongly disagree with. Protesting government actions is one thing, its different than protesting the political speech of others.

[Chuck Norris]

I don’t believe IUP really has full control over who rents the KCAC, but I don’t recall the details on that. Maybe someone else here knows the arrangement.

I agree that a visit here is a waste of Trump’s time. This area will not determine the outcome of the election but he’s likely to get enough people that like him to show up and fill what is a relatively small arena. A made for TV moment if you will that will give the impression he has widespread support in PA. In reality, he’d be much better served by going to Erie or the Philadelphia suburbs where there might be a handful of undecided votes. Current polling shows him 3-4 points behind in the state and you aren’t going to make up ground in rural Indiana County.

Locally my biggest concern is for everyone’s safety. You’re going to have Trump supporters strolling into town and in all likelihood, a strong showing of protesters made up largely of students. It will be all hands on deck for Borough, University, and State Police, and they better bring in reinforcements from outside the area. Hopefully the Trump show can roll in and out of town without leaving a trail of destruction behind.

Surely even Trump’s SS detail can keep things tight inside the KCAC. I’d honestly be kind of surprised if the protester presence is all that significant or leads to any sort of chaos. Of course, there’s always the possibility of a lone nut doing something stupid.

I see Monday being a very inconvenient day for those of us who live/work in Indiana and then in a day or two we’ll forget it even happened.

[WarriorVoice]

It's a bad look for IUP.

Especially if the bill doesn't get paid...

[IUPNation]

Pennsylvania is all about turn out now, not many undecided. The rallies convince supporters to actively encourage their friends and neighbors. Drive people to the polls, help people fill out their mail in ballots properly. It’s probably a good idea for trump to encourage that here.

Oh...he's going to drive people to the polls all right. To vote against him. They are eating the pets? He finally jumped the shark.

Trumpism does not play well in Suburban Philadelphia. Sure we have Trumpanzees...but people who were once reliably Republican voters based on economic issues are turned off by the social conservatism that seeks to hurt people they know. They don't like the bullying and the threat of taking rights away. That may play well in Heilwood, Strongstown, Penn Run and Clymer...but it does not play well in Exton, West Chester, Paoli, and Malvern. Guess where more people live?

You do understand why Mastriano got a total beatdown two years ago? He ran on Trumpism...didn't run a single ad in the Philadelphia TV market and didn't bother to campaign down here. Josh Shapiro didn't have to break a sweat to get elected.

It doesn't look like Connecticut Dave is running a good campaign for Senate so far....mostly PAC run ads for him but very few of his own. They ones he does run say nothing what he stands for other than he has "honor".

I could live without the mess too, protesting a political rally is a waste of time, but that never stopped anyone.

Especially on 1/6/2021.

it is sort of ironic that the people likely to protest Trump are the same ones that celebrated when they got rid of the Indian mascot and banned playing Cherokee, loved “crimson express “and would ban football if they had their way. But that’s politics.

I'm a staunch Democrat and supported none of that. IUP lost all of that thanks to the morons who run the NCAA. It was blackmail plain and simple. There was never one protest on the IUP campus about being the IUP Indians. IUP couldn't pay the bribe to the NCAA like Flori-duh State could to keep their mascot and Seminole War Chant. During the Self Inflicted IUP Identity Crisis of 1986...the vast majority did not support the attempt to change from Indians to the Flaming Arrows. That is when we did lose students dressing up as the Indian and Squaw. However all of that could have been avoided had IUP just embraced Native American studies and causes and raised scholarship endowments to admit Native Americans on any reservation (funny how they still exist) and only a Native could wear the mascot uniforms or bring one from their own tribes to wear. Honor them...don't demean them by making blonde blue eye Tyler from Mt. Lebanon be the Big Indian.

The irony is that the people in the Cult in the arena this week will support funding cuts to IUP or just demand the whole place get closed down because they say all it does is teach students the fine art of 5 Year Plans and Government Control of all Production as Communists.. As you know...Dementia DonOLD Diaper said he loves loves loves the poorly educated.


IUP needs to do better.

[IUPNation]

I don’t believe IUP really has full control over who rents the KCAC,

It's a bad look for IUP.

[ironmaniup]

I don’t believe IUP really has full control over who rents the KCAC, but I don’t recall the details on that. Maybe someone else here knows the arrangement.

I agree that a visit here is a waste of Trump’s time. This area will not determine the outcome of the election but he’s likely to get enough people that like him to show up and fill what is a relatively small arena. A made for TV moment if you will that will give the impression he has widespread support in PA. In reality, he’d be much better served by going to Erie or the Philadelphia suburbs where there might be a handful of undecided votes. Current polling shows him 3-4 points behind in the state and you aren’t going to make up ground in rural Indiana County.

Locally my biggest concern is for everyone’s safety. You’re going to have Trump supporters strolling into town and in all likelihood, a strong showing of protesters made up largely of students. It will be all hands on deck for Borough, University, and State Police, and they better bring in reinforcements from outside the area. Hopefully the Trump show can roll in and out of town without leaving a trail of destruction behind.

Pennsylvania is all about turn out now, not many undecided. The rallies convince supporters to actively encourage their friends and neighbors. Drive people to the polls, help people fill out their mail in ballots properly. It’s probably a good idea for trump to encourage that here.

I could live without the mess too, protesting a political rally is a waste of time, but that never stopped anyone.

it is sort of ironic that the people likely to protest Trump are the same ones that celebrated when they got rid of the Indian mascot and banned playing Cherokee, loved “crimson express “and would ban football if they had their way. But that’s politics.

[EyeoftheHawk]

The irony that the audience is completely hostile to universities and sneer at the those with college degrees attending an Idiot Rally on a college campus they hate....

You can't make this stuff up.

So yeah have a rally in a part of the state that you have in the bag and not in the area that will determine who wins the Commonwealth's electoral votes...the Philadelphia suburbs.

The political lawn sign wanker wagging contests homeowners love to have is just starting to sprout in my part of Chester County. On my way home from the gym...I passed 5 lawn signs.

4 for ,La

1 for Dementia DonOLD Diaper.

I don’t believe IUP really has full control over who rents the KCAC, but I don’t recall the details on that. Maybe someone else here knows the arrangement.

I agree that a visit here is a waste of Trump’s time. This area will not determine the outcome of the election but he’s likely to get enough people that like him to show up and fill what is a relatively small arena. A made for TV moment if you will that will give the impression he has widespread support in PA. In reality, he’d be much better served by going to Erie or the Philadelphia suburbs where there might be a handful of undecided votes. Current polling shows him 3-4 points behind in the state and you aren’t going to make up ground in rural Indiana County.

Locally my biggest concern is for everyone’s safety. You’re going to have Trump supporters strolling into town and in all likelihood, a strong showing of protesters made up largely of students. It will be all hands on deck for Borough, University, and State Police, and they better bring in reinforcements from outside the area. Hopefully the Trump show can roll in and out of town without leaving a trail of destruction behind.

[IUPNation]

The Donald could finish the rally and head over to the Elks ... be a special guest on The Tort Show.

He doesn't mingle with the peasantry.

Someone at the Idiot Rally should ask him if they can come stay at MAGA Lardo...see how that goes.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The irony that the audience is completely hostile to universities and sneer at the those with college degrees attending an Idiot Rally on a college campus they hate....

You can't make this stuff up.

So yeah have a rally in a part of the state that you have in the bag and not in the area that will determine who wins the Commonwealth's electoral votes...the Philadelphia suburbs.

The political lawn sign wanker wagging contests homeowners love to have is just starting to sprout in my part of Chester County. On my way home from the gym...I passed 5 lawn signs.

4 for ,La

1 for Dementia DonOLD Diaper.

The Donald could finish the rally and head over to the Elks ... be a special guest on The Tort Show.

[IUPNation]

Protest? That means the students would have to show some signs of life which hasn't happened in a couple decades.

The irony that the audience is completely hostile to universities and sneer at the those with college degrees attending an Idiot Rally on a college campus they hate....

You can't make this stuff up.

So yeah have a rally in a part of the state that you have in the bag and not in the area that will determine who wins the Commonwealth's electoral votes...the Philadelphia suburbs.

The political lawn sign wanker wagging contests homeowners love to have is just starting to sprout in my part of Chester County. On my way home from the gym...I passed 5 lawn signs.

4 for ,La

1 for Dementia DonOLD Diaper.

[IUPalum]

I hope the students protest like hell.

FDJT

Protest? That means the students would have to show some signs of life which hasn't happened in a couple decades.

[IUPNation]

Confirmed.

https://event.donaldjtrump.com/event...233.1726622049

Crap now he's in my web data

Every student on campus needs to apply then not show up so he arrives to an empty arena........