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  • #91
    Looks like I had only found the regular season win totals. My mistake and apologies.

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    • #92
      We've met that part of the off season where we're debating where the starting point is for the d*ck measuring contest.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

        Of course, you could keep going back in time. If you go back 10 more years I wonder if IUP eclipses that 8 game margin with Shepherd. If you go back 50 or 60 years IUP is still up there. West Chester has the most ALL-TIME wins, followed by IUP. I'm surprised Bloom is where it is since '94.
        Bloom was so good for so long, though.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post

          I don't have anything on the Northeast-10 or the MEC/WVIAC, but I can't imagine anyone from those leagues with any wins as Shepherd since it joined D2 in 1994.

          Wins since 1994 (PSAC teams)
          1. Shepherd, 234
          2. IUP, 226
          3. Bloomsburg, 224
          4. Slippery Rock, 212
          5. West Chester, 201
          6. California, 189
          7. Shippensburg, 174
          8. Kutztown, 166
          9. Edinboro, 159
          10. East Stroudsburg, 152
          11. Mercyhurst, 133
          12. Gannon, 117
          13. Millersville, 108
          14. Clarion, 105
          15. Lock Haven, 54
          16. Seton Hill, 40 (started in 2005)
          Wow, Bloom at 224 stands out to me there. That's with a lot of middling season the 5-7 years as well. Hale really had that program humming for quite some time.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
            Of course, you could keep going back in time. If you go back 10 more years I wonder if IUP eclipses that 8 game margin with Shepherd. If you go back 50 or 60 years IUP is still up there. West Chester has the most ALL-TIME wins, followed by IUP. I'm surprised Bloom is where it is since '94.
            Originally posted by Ram Tough View Post
            Bloom was so good for so long, though.
            Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post
            Wow, Bloom at 224 stands out to me there. That's with a lot of middling season the 5-7 years as well. Hale really had that program humming for quite some time.
            Wins since 1951 (when the PSAC was established)
            1. IUP, 500
            2. West Chester, 497
            3. Slippery Rock, 415
            4. Bloomsburg, 406
            5. East Stroudsburg, 403
            6. Shippensburg, 384
            7. Edinboro, 355
            8. Clarion, 347
            9. California, 344
            10. Millersville, 331
            11. Kutztown, 313
            12. Lock Haven, 204
            13. Mercyhurst, 201 (Began in 1983)
            14. Gannon, 144 (Began in 1989)
            15. Seton Hill, 40 (Began in 2005)

            Note: Shepherd had 466 wins, but was in NAIA prior to 1994.

            Wins by decade (top 3)
            1950s: West Chester, 72; Shippensburg 60; Bloomsburg, 50
            1960s: West Chester, 74; East Stroudsburg, 68; IUP 63
            1970s: East Stroudsburg, 68; Clarion, 67; Millersville, 64
            1980s: West Chester, 74; IUP, 72; Millersville, 69
            1990s: IUP, 95. Slippery Rock, 80; Millersville, 73
            2000s: Bloomsburg, 92; IUP, 79, California, 78
            2010s: Shepherd, 101; IUP, 90; Slippery Rock, 89
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post





              Wins since 1951 (when the PSAC was established)
              1. IUP, 500
              2. West Chester, 497
              3. Slippery Rock, 415
              4. Bloomsburg, 406
              5. East Stroudsburg, 403
              6. Shippensburg, 384
              7. Edinboro, 355
              8. Clarion, 347
              9. California, 344
              10. Millersville, 331
              11. Kutztown, 313
              12. Lock Haven, 204
              13. Mercyhurst, 201 (Began in 1983)
              14. Gannon, 144 (Began in 1989)
              15. Seton Hill, 40 (Began in 2005)

              Note: Shepherd had 466 wins, but was in NAIA prior to 1994.

              Wins by decade (top 3)
              1950s: West Chester, 72; Shippensburg 60; Bloomsburg, 50
              1960s: West Chester, 74; East Stroudsburg, 68; IUP 63
              1970s: East Stroudsburg, 68; Clarion, 67; Millersville, 64
              1980s: West Chester, 74; IUP, 72; Millersville, 69
              1990s: IUP, 95. Slippery Rock, 80; Millersville, 73
              2000s: Bloomsburg, 92; IUP, 79, California, 78
              2010s: Shepherd, 101; IUP, 90; Slippery Rock, 89
              Great stats... throwing the monkey wrench in, Gannon and Mercyhurst took a lot of losses in their days in the Gliac. That was a tough conference.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
                We've met that part of the off season where we're debating where the starting point is for the d*ck measuring contest.
                Never fails to return, though hope springs eternal.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
                  We've met that part of the off season where we're debating where the starting point is for the d*ck measuring contest.
                  You only say that because Edinboro only has 355 wins since 1951, for an average of 5 per year.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post





                    Wins since 1951 (when the PSAC was established)
                    1. IUP, 500
                    2. West Chester, 497
                    3. Slippery Rock, 415
                    4. Bloomsburg, 406
                    5. East Stroudsburg, 403
                    6. Shippensburg, 384
                    7. Edinboro, 355
                    8. Clarion, 347
                    9. California, 344
                    10. Millersville, 331
                    11. Kutztown, 313
                    12. Lock Haven, 204
                    13. Mercyhurst, 201 (Began in 1983)
                    14. Gannon, 144 (Began in 1989)
                    15. Seton Hill, 40 (Began in 2005)

                    Note: Shepherd had 466 wins, but was in NAIA prior to 1994.

                    Wins by decade (top 3)
                    1950s: West Chester, 72; Shippensburg 60; Bloomsburg, 50
                    1960s: West Chester, 74; East Stroudsburg, 68; IUP 63
                    1970s: East Stroudsburg, 68; Clarion, 67; Millersville, 64
                    1980s: West Chester, 74; IUP, 72; Millersville, 69
                    1990s: IUP, 95. Slippery Rock, 80; Millersville, 73
                    2000s: Bloomsburg, 92; IUP, 79, California, 78
                    2010s: Shepherd, 101; IUP, 90; Slippery Rock, 89
                    What stands out to me is the Gene Carpenter era at Millersville, indicated by the '70s through '90s, compared with the Ville's troubles today. And East Stroudsburg was formidable for a while. I witnessed them play to a 14-14 tie with Ship in the '76 State game.

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                    • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                      What stands out to me is the Gene Carpenter era at Millersville, indicated by the '70s through '90s, compared with the Ville's troubles today.
                      Ain't that the truth. Since 1951, Millersville was 212-89-6 (.700) with Carpenter and 119-251-3 (.323) without him.

                      Originally posted by Ship69 View Post
                      And East Stroudsburg was formidable for a while.
                      264-204-3 (.564 ) with Denny, 139-71-8 (.656) without.
                      Last edited by Matt Burglund; 02-07-2022, 09:00 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post





                        Wins since 1951 (when the PSAC was established)
                        1. IUP, 500
                        2. West Chester, 497
                        3. Slippery Rock, 415
                        4. Bloomsburg, 406
                        5. East Stroudsburg, 403
                        6. Shippensburg, 384
                        7. Edinboro, 355
                        8. Clarion, 347
                        9. California, 344
                        10. Millersville, 331
                        11. Kutztown, 313
                        12. Lock Haven, 204
                        13. Mercyhurst, 201 (Began in 1983)
                        14. Gannon, 144 (Began in 1989)
                        15. Seton Hill, 40 (Began in 2005)

                        Note: Shepherd had 466 wins, but was in NAIA prior to 1994.

                        Wins by decade (top 3)
                        1950s: West Chester, 72; Shippensburg 60; Bloomsburg, 50
                        1960s: West Chester, 74; East Stroudsburg, 68; IUP 63
                        1970s: East Stroudsburg, 68; Clarion, 67; Millersville, 64
                        1980s: West Chester, 74; IUP, 72; Millersville, 69
                        1990s: IUP, 95. Slippery Rock, 80; Millersville, 73
                        2000s: Bloomsburg, 92; IUP, 79, California, 78
                        2010s: Shepherd, 101; IUP, 90; Slippery Rock, 89
                        Let's not forget that Cheyney and Mansfield participated in PSAC Football for decades. They may not have chalked up many wins, but they gave their opponents plenty of them. I still get chills thinking about standing in the cinder block garage they use as a Press Box at Mansfield.
                        Last edited by WarriorVoice; 02-08-2022, 06:36 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post

                          Let's not forget that Cheyney and Mansfield participated in PSAC Football for decades. They may not have chalked up many wins, but they gave their opponents plenty of them. I still get chills thinking about standing in the cinder block garage they use as a Press Box at Mansfield.
                          Man you are setting yourself up on this one...

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                          • Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post
                            Let's not forget that Cheyney and Mansfield participated in PSAC Football for decades. They may not have chalked up many wins, but they gave their opponents plenty of them.
                            Yes, but I'd say that's mostly true for East teams.

                            For instance, since 1951, IUP played Cheyney 8 times and Mansfield 2 times. Slippery Rock played Cheyney 4 times and Mansfield 7 times.

                            Now, once crossovers became mandatory (and remember in the late 90s-early 2000s the crossovers were based on previous seasons' records), Clarion and Lock Haven had more games against those two, but the more successful teams didn't see Mansfield and Cheyney that often.

                            Not their fault, but East teams had them on their schedules every season.
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                            • Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post

                              Yes, but I'd say that's mostly true for East teams.

                              For instance, since 1951, IUP played Cheyney 8 times and Mansfield 2 times. Slippery Rock played Cheyney 4 times and Mansfield 7 times.

                              Now, once crossovers became mandatory (and remember in the late 90s-early 2000s the crossovers were based on previous seasons' records), Clarion and Lock Haven had more games against those two, but the more successful teams didn't see Mansfield and Cheyney that often.

                              Not their fault, but East teams had them on their schedules every season.
                              I was just surprised that you didn't include them in your "Wins List". They did win some games in those days...

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                              • Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post

                                I was just surprised that you didn't include them in your "Wins List". They did win some games in those days...
                                Obviously I was just including current programs.

                                But, Mansfield had 154 wins and Cheyney had 100.
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