FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

[Eagle74]

Fayetteville State University Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down from his position after 11 years for personal reasons.

https://www.wral.com/fayetteville-st...down/18450014/

This does not come as a surprise as FSU's recent enrollment trends have not been good. James Anderson rejected the successful NC Promise Tuition Program which would have really turned FSU's enrollment in a positive direction, in hindsight this turned out to be a bad decision on his part. He's also been in the news in reference to other controversial situations.

Fayetteville State University is a public institution that was founded in 1867. It has a total undergraduate enrollment of 5,393, its setting is city, and the campus size is 156 acres. It utilizes a semester-based academic calendar. Fayetteville State University's ranking in the 2019 edition of Best Colleges is Regional Universities South, # 95. Its in-state tuition and fees are $4,915 (2018-19); out-of-state tuition and fees are $16,523 (2018-19).

[LegalRam]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

Fayetteville State University Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down from his position after 11 years for personal reasons.

https://www.wral.com/fayetteville-st...down/18450014/

This does not come as a surprise as FSU's recent enrollment trends have not been good. James Anderson rejected the successful NC Promise Tuition Program which would have really turned FSU's enrollment in a positive direction, in hindsight this turned out to be a bad decision on his part. He's also been in the news in reference to other controversial situations.

Fayetteville State University is a public institution that was founded in 1867. It has a total undergraduate enrollment of 5,393, its setting is city, and the campus size is 156 acres. It utilizes a semester-based academic calendar. Fayetteville State University's ranking in the 2019 edition of Best Colleges is Regional Universities South, # 95. Its in-state tuition and fees are $4,915 (2018-19); out-of-state tuition and fees are $16,523 (2018-19).

What has not been good about recent enrollment trends? We already discussed this on another thread. Total enrollment has continued to to rise since 2014 and is now over 6,300 students. Freshman enrollment was down a whole 52 students; however, roughly 68% of the 2018 entering class had HS gpas over 3.0 versus only roughly 55% of the 2017 entering class.

I don't know about you but I'd take a minimal reduction in students for an increase in quality of students.

Also, an 11 year term is actually a decent amount of time for modern day UNC system schools. He's had a longer tenure then their last 3 chancellors (not even counting the interim ones).

Look at the flagship UNC, they haven't had a chancellor to hit double digits in tenure years since the 1950s.

[Eagle74]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

What has not been good about recent enrollment trends? We already discussed this on another thread. Total enrollment has continued to to rise since 2014 and is now over 6,300 students. Freshman enrollment was down a whole 52 students; however, roughly 68% of the 2018 entering class had HS gpas over 3.0 versus only roughly 55% of the 2017 entering class.

When James Anderson first started his duties as Chancellor of FSU back in 2008, their enrollment was very close to 6,700. It's now at 6,226 whch equals to a net loss of 7%. In the 11 years, we've seen 2 different trend projections at FSU, one a declined enrollment, the other a huge escalation in the chancellor's pay and benefits. This, while many of the student's facilities could really use updating.

[LegalRam]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

When James Anderson first started his duties as Chancellor of FSU back in 2008, their enrollment was very close to 6,700. It's now at 6,226 whch equals to a net loss of 7%. In the 11 years, we've seen 2 different trend projections at FSU, one a declined enrollment, the other a huge escalation in the chancellor's pay and benefits. This, while many of the student's facilities could really use updating.

In the Fall of 2008 FSU's enrollment was 6,217 and in the Fall of 2018 FSU's enrollment was 6,318. Let's not pretend the recession and reductions in pell grants didn't hurt HBCU enrollment numbers in general over the last decade.

[Eagle74]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

In the Fall of 2008 FSU's enrollment was 6,217 and in the Fall of 2018 FSU's enrollment was 6,318. Let's not pretend the recession and reductions in pell grants didn't hurt HBCU enrollment numbers in general over the last decade.

https://www.collegetuitioncompare.co...nt-population/

Student Population Changes of Fayetteville State University (2009-2018)

Year Total Undergraduate Graduate
Total Men Women Total Men Women
2009-10 6,283 5,586 1,835 3,751 697 174 523
2010-11 5,781 5,103 1,667 3,436 678 175 503
2011-12 5,930 5,162 1,680 3,482 768 208 560
2012-13 6,060 5,287 1,620 3,667 773 186 587
2013-14 6,179 5,410 1,670 3,740 769 198 571
2014-15 5,899 5,247 1,622 3,625 652 175 477
2015-16 6,104 5,506 1,755 3,751 598 172 426
2016-17 6,223 5,540 1,769 3,771 683 234 449
2017-18 6,226 5,393 1,675 3,718 833 325 508
Average 6,076 5,359 1,699 3,660 717 205 512

[LegalRam]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

https://www.collegetuitioncompare.co...nt-population/

Student Population Changes of Fayetteville State University (2009-2018)

Year Total Undergraduate Graduate
Total Men Women Total Men Women
2009-10 6,283 5,586 1,835 3,751 697 174 523
2010-11 5,781 5,103 1,667 3,436 678 175 503
2011-12 5,930 5,162 1,680 3,482 768 208 560
2012-13 6,060 5,287 1,620 3,667 773 186 587
2013-14 6,179 5,410 1,670 3,740 769 198 571
2014-15 5,899 5,247 1,622 3,625 652 175 477
2015-16 6,104 5,506 1,755 3,751 598 172 426
2016-17 6,223 5,540 1,769 3,771 683 234 449
2017-18 6,226 5,393 1,675 3,718 833 325 508
Average 6,076 5,359 1,699 3,660 717 205 512

FALL 2018 - 6,318
https://www.northcarolina.edu/news/2...s-and-graduate

FALL 2008 - 6,217
https://www.northcarolina.edu/sites/...eport_2008.pdf

[Eagle74]

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FALL 2018 - 6,318
https://www.northcarolina.edu/news/2...s-and-graduate

FALL 2008 - 6,217
https://www.northcarolina.edu/sites/...eport_2008.pdf

So, on average FSU boosted their enrollment under Anderson's watch by 10 students per year.
2 things that stands out most is ECSU's one year (2017 / 2018) growth of 19.6%, and WSSU's enrollment decline in past 10 years from a high of 6,442 down to around 5,190 (around -20%) I've seen it posted that the decline was done on purpose, but no verifiable documentation of that theory has been found.

[wssuram]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

So, on average FSU boosted their enrollment under Anderson's watch by 10 students per year.
2 things that stands out most is ECSU's one year (2017 / 2018) growth of 19.6%, and WSSU's enrollment decline in past 10 years from a high of 6,442 down to around 5,190 (around -20%) I've seen it posted that the decline was done on purpose, but no verifiable documentation of that theory has been found.

I don't need documentation. I was there when Chancellor Reaves announced the right-sizing plan. That 6,442 looks good on paper, but the ugly side was students living in hotels and faculty racing between buildings to teach classes. I had a front row seat to the UNC System's underfunded focused growth mandate.

[wssuram]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

So, on average FSU boosted their enrollment under Anderson's watch by 10 students per year.
2 things that stands out most is ECSU's one year (2017 / 2018) growth of 19.6%, and WSSU's enrollment decline in past 10 years from a high of 6,442 down to around 5,190 (around -20%) I've seen it posted that the decline was done on purpose, but no verifiable documentation of that theory has been found.

Simple Google search...
https://www.higheredworks.org/2016/0...story-at-wssu/

http://www.thenewsargus.com/news/view.php/403008/WSSU-students-adjusting-to-new-housing-l

[Eagle74]

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I'm glad to hear that improvements were made.

SAT Scores Over Time of Winston-Salem State University (2009-2018)

Year Total Math Critical Reading/Writing
25th 75th 25th 75th 25th 75th
2009-10 790 940 400 470 390 470
2010-11 820 950 410 480 410 470
2011-12 810 970 410 490 400 480
2012-13 820 960 420 490 400 470
2013-14 840 960 430 490 410 470
2014-15 800 930 400 470 400 460
2015-16 810 930 410 470 400 460
2016-17 800 940 400 470 400 470
2017-18 890 1,020.440 510 450 510
Average 820 956 413 482 407 473

https://www.collegetuitioncompare.co...at-act-scores/

[gr8ness97]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

So, on average FSU boosted their enrollment under Anderson's watch by 10 students per year.
2 things that stands out most is ECSU's one year (2017 / 2018) growth of 19.6%, and WSSU's enrollment decline in past 10 years from a high of 6,442 down to around 5,190 (around -20%) I've seen it posted that the decline was done on purpose, but no verifiable documentation of that theory has been found.

I know you want to be a champion of the NCPromise deal, but ECSU's big growth number also stems from a low denominator. The school had around1500, so adding 300 students would be the 20% you mention. A school like WSSU with 5000 students would need to add 1,000 students to get a 20% increase.

As the WSSU contingent have mentioned, WSSU is trying to focus on quality a little more, so its not going to get a 20% increase with that focus.

[gsutiger2002]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

Eagle, it is time to drop this subject. It has gotten old now. Seems like you have a thing with WSSU for not doing the NCPromise thing. It was their choice. LET IT GO!!!!!

[Eagle74]

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You're right, I am an advocate of the proven successful NC Promise Program because between family members and friends, I have skin in the game. One of the major positive side effects is the increased competition of new applicants driving up the overall achievement and quality levels of incoming students and transfers. This elevates the school's SAT averages and perception as compared to other schools.

It's been posted that "As the WSSU contingent have mentioned, WSSU is trying to focus on quality a little more", well this could happen, if WSSU (and FSU) appeals to be added to the NC Promise Program. A very simple and common sense solution for WSSU, would be to join the program (if possible) and limit the number of accepted applicants for controlled growth, while immediately seeing an elevated rise in standards (based on the competition to be accepted).

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I have no doubt at all that another side effect of the Promise Program will be a rise in Football attendance and quality transfers to the participating schools. With the program, the maximum NCAA D2 football scholarship being limited to .5 or 1/2, potential players will not be burden with as much excessive student debt after finishing school.

[LegalRam]

Re: FSU's Chancellor James Anderson is stepping down.

You're right, I am an advocate of the proven successful NC Promise Program because between family members and friends, I have skin in the game. One of the major positive side effects is the increased competition of new applicants driving up the overall achievement and quality levels of incoming students and transfers. This elevates the school's SAT averages and perception as compared to other schools.

It's been posted that "As the WSSU contingent have mentioned, WSSU is trying to focus on quality a little more", well this could happen, if WSSU (and FSU) appeals to be added to the NC Promise Program. A very simple and common sense solution for WSSU, would be to join the program (if possible) and limit the number of accepted applicants for controlled growth, while immediately seeing an elevated rise in standards (based on the competition to be accepted).

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I have no doubt at all that another side effect of the Promise Program will be a rise in Football attendance and quality transfers to the participating schools. With the program, the maximum NCAA D2 football scholarship being limited to .5 or 1/2, potential players will not be burden with as much excessive student debt after finishing school.

Only thing that has been proven is that the NC Promise Program increased student population. The program is in year 1, we don't even know the retention rate of this freshmen class yet. We also haven't even gone through a full political cycle to know what the long term congressional support will look like for this program.

You talk so much about enrollment numbers of WSSU and FSU, yet you didn't even mention the fact that UNCA and ECU were the only two schools in the system that saw overall enrollment drops. Maybe those two schools can beg their way into the program before they have to close those schools down...........

Again, as someone who claims not to be an alum of either WSSU or FSU what is your "skin in the game"? I'm fairly certain ECSU, UNCP, and WCU offer more than enough opportunities for students looking for reduced tuition. Considering that out of the almost 190,000 undergrad students in the UNC System only roughly 9.34% are enrolled in the "Promise Tuition" schools, it seems like some students have other priorities other than just a slightly reduced tuition.

At the point ECSU, UNCP, and WCU are having to turn away masses of qualified students then we can revisit this conversation about other schools offering the program.

[Eagle74]

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Only thing that has been proven is that the NC Promise Program increased student population. Check the academic impact of higher SAT and ACT scores at ECSU and UNCP (around 100 points), it's very clear and they speak for themselves.

The program is in year 1, we don't even know the retention rate of this freshmen class yet. We're approaching year 2.

We also haven't even gone through a full political cycle to know what the long term congressional support will look like for this program.
State Representatives on both sides (including a majority of Democrats) of the isle recognize the success of the program, and are now in full support.

You talk so much about enrollment numbers of WSSU and FSU, yet you didn't even mention the fact that UNCA and ECU were the only two schools in the system that saw overall enrollment drops. Maybe those two schools can beg their way into the program before they have to close those schools down........... LOL, ECU is down by 1.4%, and who knows, they may have decided to trim down slightly for increased quality;)

Again, as someone who claims not to be an alum of either WSSU or FSU what is your "skin in the game"? I have several close family members and friends that have attended (some are now Bronco Alumni) of FSU, and they openly talk about how they wished they had the opportunity that the NC Promise program presently offers. They also talk (out of pride) about how the school could use additional funding, renovating, and updating.

I'm fairly certain ECSU, UNCP, and WCU offer more than enough opportunities for students looking for reduced tuition. Considering that out of the almost 190,000 undergrad students in the UNC System only roughly 9.34% are enrolled in the "Promise Tuition" schools, it seems like some students have other priorities other than just a slightly reduced tuition. I'm absolutely positive there are thousands of potential upcoming graduates (many underprivileged) in both the Fayetteville and Triad areas which could really benefit by having the program available at their local Universities, just common sense, especially with the reduced number of available Pell Grants

At the point ECSU, UNCP, and WCU are having to turn away masses of qualified students then we can revisit this conversation about other schools offering the program. That may happen for UNCP in the very near future unless new additional dorms and classes are quickly completed (885 additional students and transfers in just the past year), also ECSU is now filling dorms that had vacancies in the past.