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Okay, I think a couple of things need to be cleared up about the bowl games.
1) The Live United has an auto-berth agreement to take the "best non-playoff team" from the GAC. However, the team has the right to decline the bowl bid, like Henderson did in 2014. It would appear that both Ouachita and Henderson declined the bid, so Southeastern was next in line and they accepted.
2) The Heritage Bowl does not have any auto-berths, both teams are selected at-large. That means the Heritage Bowl can offer a bid to whomever they want. They are not required to extend an invite to GAC teams in order of conference finish.
Having said all that, as a GAC guy at heart, I would rather have two teams that want to be at the bowl games, than two teams that have no desire to be there.
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Originally posted by LeeroyJenkins View PostNeither Ouachita nor Henderson has anything to gain from a bowl appearance. Their brands of excellence are well-established, and they would needlessly risk injury to their players. Both SE and OKBU can burnish their brands with bowl victories and use that to improve recruiting.
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Originally posted by Armo Wood View PostOkay, I think a couple of things need to be cleared up about the bowl games.
1) The Live United has an auto-berth agreement to take the "best non-playoff team" from the GAC. However, the team has the right to decline the bowl bid, like Henderson did in 2014. It would appear that both Ouachita and Henderson declined the bid, so Southeastern was next in line and they accepted.
2) The Heritage Bowl does not have any auto-berths, both teams are selected at-large. That means the Heritage Bowl can offer a bid to whomever they want. They are not required to extend an invite to GAC teams in order of conference finish.
Having said all that, as a GAC guy at heart, I would rather have two teams that want to be at the bowl games, than two teams that have no desire to be there.
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You're welcome.
I would respectfully disagree with you and Leeroy about the idea that they have nothing to gain. I think they would have everything to gain from a national respect angle if they were to play and win. Turning down an opportunity to play in a game on a national stage can come across as a team having no desire to improve on the national stage. In many ways it comes across as being content to stay a conference only power. There are consequences that come with turning down such opportunities, and it does eventually impact recruiting--I've seen it happen.
Also, in the case of Henderson's L'Liott Curry and Ouachita's TJ Cole it could have provided an opportunity to showcase why they should be Harlon Hill finalists and maybe one of them a potential winner. Sidenote: I was told by sources at the time in 2014 that Kevin Rodgers lost the Harlon Hill vote by three votes and that if they had played in the Live United Bowl, where he could have showcased his talents against an MIAA team, he might have won it--but we'll never know.
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The extra practice that comes along with the bowl games really helps develop the younger guys too. I know when we went to Texarkana, the first two weeks of practice had a lot more time dedicated to the freshman. Everyone got way more reps, and we had multiple freshman scrimmages where you went live. It was really a great tool to help get kids some more live reps/experience heading into the spring. I'm surprised that teams turn down bowl games. It does nothing but help your program.
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Poor, poor kitty, the truth must hurt a lot if you're trying to use big words as an ad hominen attack to refute evidence based data. It's not my fault you're a bunch of pusillanimous losers.... oh wait, I'm dealing with a Quachita edumacated person.... not my fault you're a bunch of cowardly lions.
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Originally posted by Armo Wood View Post
You're welcome.
I would respectfully disagree with you and Leeroy about the idea that they have nothing to gain. I think they would have everything to gain from a national respect angle if they were to play and win. Turning down an opportunity to play in a game on a national stage can come across as a team having no desire to improve on the national stage. In many ways it comes across as being content to stay a conference only power. There are consequences that come with turning down such opportunities, and it does eventually impact recruiting--I've seen it happen.
Also, in the case of Henderson's L'Liott Curry and Ouachita's TJ Cole it could have provided an opportunity to showcase why they should be Harlon Hill finalists and maybe one of them a potential winner. Sidenote: I was told by sources at the time in 2014 that Kevin Rodgers lost the Harlon Hill vote by three votes and that if they had played in the Live United Bowl, where he could have showcased his talents against an MIAA team, he might have won it--but we'll never know.
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