Will there be a season?

[Thelakerman]

I don't think the worry is about it going through a football locker room. The issue would be about it going through a stadium full of 110,000 people, many of which are at higher risk for complications. And there is no evidence of any lasting immunity from contracting the virus/disease and recovering. Mounting evidence is showing that it just goes dormant until flaring up again, and that the body doesn't produce enough antibodies on its own to actually defeat it.

[KleShreen]

It isn't possible for those more at risk to avoid exposure. Because if a football game is attended by 110,000 people, all of which are *not* at higher risk of complications, then they obtain the virus at the game and spread it throughout all of their own communities at stores, offices, restaurants, etc., and those who are more at risk are still exposed to the virus despite not being in high-risk situations. All it takes is one of those 110,000 people to fiddle around with a box of cereal at the store, a high-risk person comes and gets that cereal 20 minutes later, and now that virus is with the high-risk person.

It is why nothing is going to be "normal" until a vaccine is available that builds a person's antibodies.

[champgymusa]

Now there's a bunch of rumors of a football season in the spring of 2021, with a championship around memorial day.

Doubtful at best....you are asking some kids to play 30 games in 7 months...thats not going to happen...injuries would be off the charts and lawsuits would shut that down...remember these guys are no professionals...the NFL wont even think of doing that cause the union would kill it..I dont have the answers thats for sure...but lets give this a little time to settle down and then see if maybe people that are at high risk just have to stay home this year...if we have no college football for a season the NCAA as we know it will be gone..the Power 5s and smart D2 and D3s will survive, the rest? Well...gonna be crazy FOR SURE!!! Wish ya all the best...stay home, stay safe, forget sane, thats gone....

[Thelakerman]

It isn't possible for those more at risk to avoid exposure. Because if a football game is attended by 110,000 people, all of which are *not* at higher risk of complications, then they obtain the virus at the game and spread it throughout all of their own communities at stores, offices, restaurants, etc., and those who are more at risk are still exposed to the virus despite not being in high-risk situations. All it takes is one of those 110,000 people to fiddle around with a box of cereal at the store, a high-risk person comes and gets that cereal 20 minutes later, and now that virus is with the high-risk person.

It is why nothing is going to be "normal" until a vaccine is available that builds a person's antibodies.

[unc4life]

I think the real question will be are schools back on campus in September, If yes then i think there will be football, If not then no there will not be football. It will also be interesting to see how that works out across states. Will there be schools back on campus in Ohio, but not Michigan? What will the GLIAC do if not all the school in the conference are back? We still have a long way to go till August.

[Thelakerman]

I think the real question will be are schools back on campus in September, If yes then i think there will be football, If not then no there will not be football. It will also be interesting to see how that works out across states. Will there be schools back on campus in Ohio, but not Michigan? What will the GLIAC do if not all the school in the conference are back? We still have a long way to go till August.

You hit the nail on the head.

[champgymusa]

I think the real question will be are schools back on campus in September, If yes then i think there will be football, If not then no there will not be football. It will also be interesting to see how that works out across states. Will there be schools back on campus in Ohio, but not Michigan? What will the GLIAC do if not all the school in the conference are back? We still have a long way to go till August.

If schools are not person to person in September football is done...at least for this year...and for many schools with a thin cash flow it might be the death of sports...sad as hell...

[KleShreen]

It's not the same at all, though. The "flu or a bad cold" still has a mortality rate of 0.01% and lower. This has a fatality rate of about 3-4% right now, and about 10% for those with pre-existing conditions, which is about half of the United States. 30-40x more deadly for healthy people, 100x more deadly for not-healthy people. And even if you are asymptomatic or get mild symptoms, there is now evidence that it still does permanent damage to your lungs, kidney, and liver, without you noticing, which could impact your life expectancy and/or create issues for you in the future. A "flu or bad cold" has no lasting, permanent effects. Flus and bad colds also have proven, effective treatments. We have no idea how to vaccinate for this virus, we have no idea how to prevent permanent damage from it even in people who have no symptoms, and we don't even have an effective treatment for it like we do for the cold and flu. We don't even create enough antibodies on our own from contracting and "recovering" from this to fight it off in the future. That's why some kind of vaccine is needed, to at least give us more antibodies to effectively fight it. There's always risk for people. But 99% of things you come in contact with at least have effective treatments to minimize the lasting effects of a virus. This does not, which is why it is dumb to take the risk. Until we can make it so the hospitalization rate of people who contract it goes down to what the flu is, about 1% rather than the current 33%, and so that the mortality rate is wayyyy below what it is currently at, every precaution possible should be taken for everybody. The flu kills about 40k people per year. But that's also with about 45 million people per year actually getting the flu. If 45 million people were to get this virus, with the current 3-4% mortality rate, then that's 1.35-1.8 million people dead instead of 40k. That would bring the entire country to its knees in every way imaginable.

[unc4life]

If schools are not person to person in September football is done...at least for this year...and for many schools with a thin cash flow it might be the death of sports...sad as hell...

I wonder about this a lot. I think there are D2 school in the the Midwest that are just holding on, and something like this really hurts. It's deeper too then just the last month and months to come. Its how does it affect enrollment next year, its how many sports will be cut, how many jobs lost. It will be really interesting to see how this all plays out.

[KleShreen]

If schools are not person to person in September football is done...at least for this year...and for many schools with a thin cash flow it might be the death of sports...sad as hell...

Would it, though, for D2 and D3? I think the opinion of a lot of D2 and D3 schools would be that they would rather just shut down the entire athletic department for a school year and be happy about it. Very, very, very few schools get any kind of profit from athletics. Not playing them for a year would probably save the schools money rather than cost them. The issue of course would be getting student-athletes to stay at the school, or coaches, and getting future recruits if they know that the school will gladly throw them aside in a crisis. So I think there would be a threat to athletics, but I think it would be in the opposite direction - that schools would be glad to save money by not fielding athletic teams.

[Thelakerman]

It's not the same at all, though. The "flu or a bad cold" still has a mortality rate of 0.01% and lower. This has a fatality rate of about 3-4% right now, and about 10% for those with pre-existing conditions, which is about half of the United States. 30-40x more deadly for healthy people, 100x more deadly for not-healthy people. And even if you are asymptomatic or get mild symptoms, there is now evidence that it still does permanent damage to your lungs, kidney, and liver, without you noticing, which could impact your life expectancy and/or create issues for you in the future. A "flu or bad cold" has no lasting, permanent effects. Flus and bad colds also have proven, effective treatments. We have no idea how to vaccinate for this virus, we have no idea how to prevent permanent damage from it even in people who have no symptoms, and we don't even have an effective treatment for it like we do for the cold and flu. We don't even create enough antibodies on our own from contracting and "recovering" from this to fight it off in the future. That's why some kind of vaccine is needed, to at least give us more antibodies to effectively fight it. There's always risk for people. But 99% of things you come in contact with at least have effective treatments to minimize the lasting effects of a virus. This does not, which is why it is dumb to take the risk. Until we can make it so the hospitalization rate of people who contract it goes down to what the flu is, about 1% rather than the current 33%, and so that the mortality rate is wayyyy below what it is currently at, every precaution possible should be taken for everybody. The flu kills about 40k people per year. But that's also with about 45 million people per year actually getting the flu. If 45 million people were to get this virus, with the current 3-4% mortality rate, then that's 1.35-1.8 million people dead instead of 40k. That would bring the entire country to its knees in every way imaginable.

[KleShreen]

The 45 million is the number of flu cases the US generally has each year (between 45 and 60 million confirmed). I was saying if the same number of people get this virus as get the flu, the death numbers would be to a point the economy would not recover from for decades.

[Thelakerman]

The 45 million is the number of flu cases the US generally has each year (between 45 and 60 million confirmed). I was saying if the same number of people get this virus as get the flu, the death numbers would be to a point the economy would not recover from for decades.

[Mk63NuclearBomb]

If y'all need something to watch, r/CFB is streaming some games on NCAA 14 throughout the day

Texas @ Kansas in progress

UConn @ Rutgers 1:15

Boise State @ Memphis 2:30

UGA @ UF 3:45 (World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party)

Texas Tech @ Penn St. 5:00

WVU @Pitt 6:15 (Backyard Brawl)

UCF @ Alabama 7:30

Nebraska @ Oklahoma 8:45 (Game of the Century rematch)

Washington @ Oregon 10:00 (Border War)

[bigmrg74]

If schools are not person to person in September football is done...at least for this year...and for many schools with a thin cash flow it might be the death of sports...sad as hell...

Heck, there's probably schools out there that could very well go belly up themselves if they're not back on campus by next September. If a kid has to sit at home for his Freshman 101 classes, they could just as well do that from say some online program at a Junior college verses some 4 year schools. Not getting those freshman on campus this fall could really affect a lot of schools's long term viability if they're not getting the numbers to keep their doors open.