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  • #16
    Originally posted by CatFan88 View Post
    John Roderique, Webb City High School. No chance, but you might consider the phone call if you're MSSU. MSSU in damage control after the disaster hire of Sims. Lucas Lueders would be another but he's the new OC at UCM. Again, not likely, but he's young and if he took OC job at UCM after being OC at Morningside, it would be worth the call to see if any interest. All they can do is say no.

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    • #17
      John McMenamin at Wayne State

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      • #18
        I don't think that matters much. Mel Tjeerdsma had only coached in the NAIA when he arrived at Northwest.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by TheTrain View Post
          John McMenamin at Wayne State
          I think he will have a greater chance for success at Wayne State.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Brandon View Post

            I don't think that matters much. Mel Tjeerdsma had only coached in the NAIA when he arrived at Northwest.

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            • #21
              FBS
              Although he was a head coach I think Lance Leipold probably fits this criteria. He jumped from HC at a D3 school up to HC in the MAC
              Kalen DeBoer went from being an assistant coach in high school to the OC of Sioux Falls then the HC at Sioux Falls

              FCS
              Ed McCaffrey went from HS HC coach to head coach of Northern Colorado
              Rod Milstead HS to Delaware State
              Chris Merritt HS to Bryant
              Bryan Collins went straight to HC at LIU/ CW Post...never a coach in any other capacity anywhere in any position
              Vic Shealy OC at Kansas now HC at Houston Baptist....just seeing if anyone is paying attention
              Deion Sanders OC at trinity hs now HC Jackson State

              D2
              Kermit Blount now at Johnson C Smith went straight to HC at WSSU

              D2 coaches don't have easy wiki links and I'm not going to go through every one of them. Judging from the above, I would bet there are multiple D3 coordinatiors or HS HC who went straight to HC at the D2 level.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Gridiron Bobby View Post
                .
                Ask and ye shall receive (per Wallst)...

                FBS
                Although he was a head coach I think Lance Leipold probably fits this criteria. He jumped from HC at a D3 school up to HC in the MAC
                Kalen DeBoer went from being an assistant coach in high school to the OC of Sioux Falls then the HC at Sioux Falls

                FCS
                Ed McCaffrey went from HS HC coach to head coach of Northern Colorado
                Rod Milstead HS to Delaware State
                Chris Merritt HS to Bryant
                Bryan Collins went straight to HC at LIU/ CW Post...never a coach in any other capacity anywhere in any position
                Vic Shealy OC at Kansas now HC at Houston Baptist....just seeing if anyone is paying attention
                Deion Sanders OC at trinity hs now HC Jackson State

                D2
                Kermit Blount now at Johnson C Smith went straight to HC at WSSU

                D2 coaches don't have easy wiki links and I'm not going to go through every one of them. Judging from the above, I would bet there are multiple D3 coordinatiors or HS HC who went straight to HC at the D2 level.

                Thanks Wallst
                Last edited by CatFan88; 12-13-2020, 03:55 PM.
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                • #23
                  Does it really matter what level he is at now or his experience? D2 at the level MSSU is now isn't a leap above good NAIA like Morningside or D3. Lueders will be a collegiate HC somewhere, someday. And I'm betting it will be sooner than later. Sheesh, look at what Matt Campbell has done at Iowa St. in 5 years. He's never coached a down in the NFL but he's getting looks.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by CatFan88 View Post

                    Ask and ye shall receive (per Wallst)...

                    FBS
                    Although he was a head coach I think Lance Leipold probably fits this criteria. He jumped from HC at a D3 school up to HC in the MAC
                    Kalen DeBoer went from being an assistant coach in high school to the OC of Sioux Falls then the HC at Sioux Falls

                    FCS
                    Ed McCaffrey went from HS HC coach to head coach of Northern Colorado
                    Rod Milstead HS to Delaware State
                    Chris Merritt HS to Bryant
                    Bryan Collins went straight to HC at LIU/ CW Post...never a coach in any other capacity anywhere in any position
                    Vic Shealy OC at Kansas now HC at Houston Baptist....just seeing if anyone is paying attention
                    Deion Sanders OC at trinity hs now HC Jackson State

                    D2
                    Kermit Blount now at Johnson C Smith went straight to HC at WSSU

                    D2 coaches don't have easy wiki links and I'm not going to go through every one of them. Judging from the above, I would bet there are multiple D3 coordinatiors or HS HC who went straight to HC at the D2 level.

                    Thanks Wallst

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                    • #25
                      He graduated from Sterling in 2008. If he were 22 at the time of graduation, he would be 34 now.

                      MSSU is not a good situation right now. The program at Southern is only "MIAA" in so much as they are a part of the football conference. They have gone in all sorts of directions and failed. Have they ever given the job to a young up and comer? Looking back, the answer is no.

                      These are the coaches that have been there since I have been following D2.

                      Lantz 51-35-1 (.592)
                      Gregory 8-13 (.381)
                      Cooke 15-33 (.313)
                      Ware 7-9 (.438)
                      Tatum 25-39 (.399)
                      Daye 17-15 (.531)
                      Johnson 3-36 (.083)
                      Sims 2-9 (.222)

                      Maybe there is no answer at Southern, but I don't think they're going to find the right fit that meets the qualifications that you'd like.


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Brandon View Post

                        He graduated from Sterling in 2008. If he were 22 at the time of graduation, he would be 34 now.

                        MSSU is not a good situation right now. The program at Southern is only "MIAA" in so much as they are a part of the football conference. They have gone in all sorts of directions and failed. Have they ever given the job to a young up and comer? Looking back, the answer is no.

                        These are the coaches that have been there since I have been following D2.

                        Lantz 51-35-1 (.592)
                        Gregory 8-13 (.381)
                        Cooke 15-33 (.313)
                        Ware 7-9 (.438)
                        Tatum 25-39 (.399)
                        Daye 17-15 (.531)
                        Johnson 3-36 (.083)
                        Sims 2-9 (.222)

                        Maybe there is no answer at Southern, but I don't think they're going to find the right fit that meets the qualifications that you'd like.

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                        • #27
                          The reason Lueders was mentioned was that a lot of Northwest guys wanted him hired at NW when a change was made at OC there. We all end up talking about what we know.

                          Who has relatable experience that will take that job? Do you have any names you think should be candidates?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Brandon View Post

                            The reason Lueders was mentioned was that a lot of Northwest guys wanted him hired at NW when a change was made at OC there. We all end up talking about what we know.

                            Who has relatable experience that will take that job? Do you have any names you think should be candidates?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by PSR View Post
                              They just need to drop football. They're no good at it anyway.......
                              Maybe just combine two craphole programs such as Pitt and MOSO to make one big craphole football program. Neither one is very good.

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                              • #30
                                Jerry might consider it because he seems to be a person that doesn't mind a challenge. He has a good job in a good FCS conference in a nice place to live.

                                I don't have a gut feeling about what Beck would do.

                                Flohr is much closer to his family at SDMT and he is a much better fit for that area than he is for Joplin.

                                I think Ryan might consider the Southern situation a step down from his current job, even though D2 is obviously better than the NAIA.

                                Where is Salem now?

                                No gut feeling about Stitt.

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