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  • UNALions
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    Originally posted by visionpipe View Post
    Well it looks like the best coach AD is getting some pay back.north west The dynasty is over it was over when AD left
    He likely should have never left. He wasn't a good FCS coach which is why he's back in D2.

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  • IowaBearcat
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    Originally posted by NWFanatic View Post
    NW hasn’t had a good QB since Kyle Z in ‘16.
    Randy S. would likely have been the ‘17 QB had he not torn his ACL before the season. I was hoping he would take a medical redshirt and come back in ‘18 but he didn’t
    WR's haven't been great either.

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  • IowaBearcat
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    Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

    Maybe QB development is the area
    to improve?
    BW is the same player he was when he started.

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  • Predatory Primates
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    Really good D2 QBs are hard to find. Being a run heavy team makes it even harder. NW is still fairly balanced, though.

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  • northwest missouri state
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    Originally posted by Alfred33 View Post

    I agree with this. I also don't think it's realistic for those that think we'd still be at that same level we were during that 4 year stretch if AD had stayed all these years. Would we better? Possibly. But, I'm sure someone else would've given RW a shot at being a head coach... he might've even moved up a level as a coordinator. RW has his faults for sure, but would people view him differently as a head coach if AD was his offensive coordinator and offensive line coach? Which would be basically what AD was working with. I know that simplifies it, but I just think a lot of it has to do with staff, which granted, is his responsibility to get right. That said, the guy is 42-10 with 3 conference championships and 4 playoff births in 4 years. Only in Bearcat land is that offensive on the D2 level.
    honestly i don't even think you need to address rw as hc when it's questioned as it has been itt. the mob is out when a loss occurs & ppl post w/o thinking or are hammered drunk or whatever is driving the nonsense. he's the best defensive coach in div 2. those notions should be ignored or mocked they're too absurd to be taken seriously. he's got some real problems he hasn't fig'd out yet but they have to be discussed in context.

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  • NW Normal
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    D-Lineman Michael Slater picked up the errant snap and carried it to the NW 11 yard line. Bronchos scored on next play.

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  • NWFanatic
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    Will any of the 3 Oline or 2 RB’s that didn’t play vs UCO be available for MoWest? Also both Braden and Mike were gimpy at times. Will Krause or Runhke get any snaps this Sat?

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  • NWFanatic
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    NW hasn’t had a good QB since Kyle Z in ‘16.
    Randy S. would likely have been the ‘17 QB had he not torn his ACL before the season. I was hoping he would take a medical redshirt and come back in ‘18 but he didn’t

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  • Billy_Broncho
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    Originally posted by jimbo slice View Post

    haven't watched the kid so don't know him at all but he seemed scattered or rattled Saturday. if he's normally steady, it all started on the bad snap at the beginning of the game. i've looked at that play a couple of times and he wasn't even looking in the direction of the snap when it happened. the ball was drug and hit the centers leg which put it out of reach even if he did turn on it and manage to corral it. seeing the snap that way tells me the center misheard something and realized halfway through the snap he screwed up. the int across the middle early in the 1st quarter was right after the botched snap and he tried to force that ball with that linebacker stepping right in front of it. maybe he didn't see the linebacker but the receiver did him no favors. didn't even attempt to fight for the possession. just let him have the ball.
    After those two possessions, Hohensee seemed to be in hyper drive and couldn't settle down. i think you guys had 4 or 5 fumbles and lost 3 of them? he's rolling out and throwing across his body into double coverage etc. i don't know i didn't think it was all his fault. he WAS making plays just didn't have enough help around him at times. hell, what do i know, we have offensive problems of our own.
    I was watching him warm up before the game and told my wife that he had a weird throwing motion? Looked very long and loopy and not a very natural motion for a QB at that level! I am no QB expert by any stretch but have watched a lot of football in my time and his motion was different enough for it to stand out to me. I do agree that not all of the mistakes were his fault as our D-line was creating havoc but he just doesn't seem to be the answer for a program of their caliber! We shall see how he plays the remainder of the season, given the chance? He may have just had "one of" those games!! It happens to the best!

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  • Alfred33
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    Originally posted by northwest missouri state View Post
    recruiting has slipped but that isn’t news. qb play has been a focal point but the truth is it’s slipped all over the place on both sides of the ball. obv not as much on the defensive side and there are also obv good players in the program but it is worth mentioning. a run like we had is absurdly unsustainable but the disappointing thing is that the team was not ready to play and frankly looked disinterested and it’s not the first time it’s happened with this regime. idk what the answer is i would have expected rich wright to have fig’d it out by now tbh but something is amiss process wise week to week. losses happen, i’m not lamenting that necessarily but rather the effort. it is impossible to have your “a” game every week but 5 turnovers is unacceptable. to say we were sloppy is the height of understatement. the penalties bc of the offenses struggles were crippling when they occurred.
    I agree with this. I also don't think it's realistic for those that think we'd still be at that same level we were during that 4 year stretch if AD had stayed all these years. Would we better? Possibly. But, I'm sure someone else would've given RW a shot at being a head coach... he might've even moved up a level as a coordinator. RW has his faults for sure, but would people view him differently as a head coach if AD was his offensive coordinator and offensive line coach? Which would be basically what AD was working with. I know that simplifies it, but I just think a lot of it has to do with staff, which granted, is his responsibility to get right. That said, the guy is 42-10 with 3 conference championships and 4 playoff births in 4 years. Only in Bearcat land is that offensive on the D2 level.

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  • Alfred33
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    Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

    Maybe QB development is the area
    to improve?
    Yeah, I think that’s a legitimate question or concern. Or it could just be that is just what he is. If you look at his numbers year to year, there’s not really any kind of a drop off, but there’s no real jump forward either. It’ll be interesting to see what the next group of quarterbacks bring.. They will have been in the program for a couple years before really seeing the field.
    Last edited by Alfred33; 09-27-2022, 09:26 AM.

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  • jimbo slice
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    Originally posted by northwest missouri state View Post
    recruiting has slipped but that isn’t news. qb play has been a focal point but the truth is it’s slipped all over the place on both sides of the ball. obv not as much on the defensive side. a run like we had is absurdly unsustainable but the disappointing thing is that the team was not ready to play and frankly looked disinterested and it’s not the first time it’s happened with this regime. idk what the answer is i would have expected rich wright to have fig’d it out by now tbh but something is amiss process wise week to week. losses happen, i’m not lamenting that necessarily but rather the effort. it is impossible to have your “a” game every week but 5 turnovers is unacceptable. to say we were sloppy is the height of understatement. the penalties bc of the offenses struggles were crippling when they occurred.
    haven't watched the kid so don't know him at all but he seemed scattered or rattled Saturday. if he's normally steady, it all started on the bad snap at the beginning of the game. i've looked at that play a couple of times and he wasn't even looking in the direction of the snap when it happened. the ball was drug and hit the centers leg which put it out of reach even if he did turn on it and manage to corral it. seeing the snap that way tells me the center misheard something and realized halfway through the snap he screwed up. the int across the middle early in the 1st quarter was right after the botched snap and he tried to force that ball with that linebacker stepping right in front of it. maybe he didn't see the linebacker but the receiver did him no favors. didn't even attempt to fight for the possession. just let him have the ball.
    After those two possessions, Hohensee seemed to be in hyper drive and couldn't settle down. i think you guys had 4 or 5 fumbles and lost 3 of them? he's rolling out and throwing across his body into double coverage etc. i don't know i didn't think it was all his fault. he WAS making plays just didn't have enough help around him at times. hell, what do i know, we have offensive problems of our own.

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  • northwest missouri state
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    recruiting has slipped but that isn’t news. qb play has been a focal point but the truth is it’s slipped all over the place on both sides of the ball. obv not as much on the defensive side and there are also obv good players in the program but it is worth mentioning. a run like we had is absurdly unsustainable but the disappointing thing is that the team was not ready to play and frankly looked disinterested and it’s not the first time it’s happened with this regime. idk what the answer is i would have expected rich wright to have fig’d it out by now tbh but something is amiss process wise week to week. losses happen, i’m not lamenting that necessarily but rather the effort. it is impossible to have your “a” game every week but 5 turnovers is unacceptable. to say we were sloppy is the height of understatement. the penalties bc of the offenses struggles were crippling when they occurred.
    Last edited by northwest missouri state; 09-27-2022, 08:41 AM.

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  • Predatory Primates
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    Originally posted by Alfred33 View Post

    Braden Wright at the time was thought to be a pretty good get... he was redshirted and won the MIAA Freshman of the Year Award. Maybe Rich Wright, or Charlie Flohr, or somebody else does warrant some criticism for either his lack of development, or regression if you feel that way about him, or maybe just the way that they chose to use him... he was never going to be a pure pocket passer. I don't know, but I think most Bearcat fans were pretty excited about Braden Wright at one point. But yes, the first RW season, we definitely had a big drop off in talent at the QB spot, but it felt like we had what was going to be our answer for the next 4 years after that... it just hasn't maybe worked out quite the way we had hoped. When a kid wins the job and is that successful his freshman year, you're almost stuck with him whether it's good or bad the rest of the way through. I mean that's a tough decision to move to someone else, especially when the team is 19-3 in conference play after 2 years with 2 conference championships. It definitely wasn't as pretty or as dominating as it was under Adams or Zimmerman, but it was hardly a failure.
    Maybe QB development is the area
    to improve?

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  • Alfred33
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    Originally posted by lleachieshusband View Post

    He was a drop-back passer who didn’t impress during the previous seasons, not very mobile, and not very quick with his reads. It didn’t help that the QB2 at the time, Baker, wasn’t deemed accurate enough to step up, and Randy Schmidt, who was probably a better QB than either one of them, got injured early on. After Zimmerman, we really had no one in development and our first recruited QB post-AD was Braden Wright, which should tell you something.


    Braden Wright at the time was thought to be a pretty good get... he was redshirted and won the MIAA Freshman of the Year Award. Maybe Rich Wright, or Charlie Flohr, or somebody else does warrant some criticism for either his lack of development, or regression if you feel that way about him, or maybe just the way that they chose to use him... he was never going to be a pure pocket passer. I don't know, but I think most Bearcat fans were pretty excited about Braden Wright at one point. But yes, the first RW season, we definitely had a big drop off in talent at the QB spot, but it felt like we had what was going to be our answer for the next 4 years after that... it just hasn't maybe worked out quite the way we had hoped. When a kid wins the job and is that successful his freshman year, you're almost stuck with him whether it's good or bad the rest of the way through. I mean that's a tough decision to move to someone else, especially when the team is 19-3 in conference play after 2 years with 2 conference championships. It definitely wasn't as pretty or as dominating as it was under Adams or Zimmerman, but it was hardly a failure.
    Last edited by Alfred33; 09-27-2022, 07:25 AM.

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