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  • NWFanatic
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    Regions will never be fair-their only reason to exist is to save the NCAA travel money come playoffs. SR3 teams consistently do well in Semis/finals.


    e.g. NWMSU is 16-4 in out of region playoff games from ‘98-‘16(10-0 in semi-finals/6-4 in title games) while they’ve lost 15 in region playoff games between ‘84 & ‘21.
    Last edited by NWFanatic; 10-05-2022, 02:49 PM.

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  • NWHoops
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    Originally posted by Billy_Broncho View Post

    Not sure why it would be so hard to rank the teams like FCS or FBS. Have a power ranking or some type of formula to rank the teams and not separate it out by region. I love that D2 has as many school involved in the playoffs as they do but they just need to come up with a better way of evaluating strength of the teams to get the best teams into the playoffs. IMO
    It's not that they can't rank them differently, it's the cost to travel long distances that is the issue. While we all enjoy D2 athletics, it is a niche group and there is not the financial support to do something different even if it meant a better playoff product.

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  • Billy_Broncho
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    Originally posted by loper legionnaire View Post

    I realize this is the football board, but it's also been that way for the Central Region in volleyball for years too. Right now 8 of the top 12 teams in the top 25 are from that region (all NSIC and MIAA teams). Imagine being a borderline top 10 team and being on the bubble of making the postseason!
    Not sure why it would be so hard to rank the teams like FCS or FBS. Have a power ranking or some type of formula to rank the teams and not separate it out by region. I love that D2 has as many school involved in the playoffs as they do but they just need to come up with a better way of evaluating strength of the teams to get the best teams into the playoffs. IMO

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  • Inkblot
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    Keep in mind that every MIAA team and every GAC team will have the exact same SOS. There's no way that 11-0 teams in each conference are ranked three spots apart.

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  • Predatory Primates
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    Originally posted by RollChos View Post

    Let’s all band together and push Mike Racy to allow non-con games next year!

    I would love the opportunity to see UCO trash on some of the lesser Oklahoma schools.
    It's the Individual school Presidents that decide. Everyone definitely needs to be bugging hell out of their respective School administrators.

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  • loper legionnaire
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    Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
    6 of the top ten poll teams are in our region.

    polls are meaningless, but it does show how stacked SR3 is.
    I realize this is the football board, but it's also been that way for the Central Region in volleyball for years too. Right now 8 of the top 12 teams in the top 25 are from that region (all NSIC and MIAA teams). Imagine being a borderline top 10 team and being on the bubble of making the postseason!

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  • Predatory Primates
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    Originally posted by ZubCat81 View Post

    Time to realign the regions.
    Based on the way the last realignment went, all of the top 10 would be in SR3 if they changed it.

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  • EveryCatAWildman
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    Originally posted by RollChos View Post

    Let’s all band together and push Mike Racy to allow non-con games next year!

    I would love the opportunity to see UCO trash on some of the lesser Oklahoma schools.
    Not going to hurt CO-Mines having two OOC losses against good teams, assuming they win the rest and the RMAC title will probably be the 2 seed in that regional.

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  • RollChos
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    Originally posted by ZubCat81 View Post

    Time to realign the regions.
    Let’s all band together and push Mike Racy to allow non-con games next year!

    I would love the opportunity to see UCO trash on some of the lesser Oklahoma schools.

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  • ZubCat81
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    Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
    6 of the top ten poll teams are in our region.

    polls are meaningless, but it does show how stacked SR3 is.
    Time to realign the regions.

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  • Predatory Primates
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    6 of the top ten poll teams are in our region.

    polls are meaningless, but it does show how stacked SR3 is.

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  • EveryCatAWildman
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    Originally posted by Alfred33 View Post

    Wow... who would've ever dreamed that an undefeated team from the MIAA could find itself as a 5 seed? How the mighty have fallen, if this is accurate.
    Best scenario for Pitt (win Saturday, duh) and hope UNK finishes 10-1, which means UNK beats NW Mo and NW hasn't lost 3 regular season games since 2005. Then you got Ouachita and Pitt at 11-0 with wins against second best teams Harding and UNK at 10-1. So it's a coin flip between Ouachita and Pitt for the higher seed, since silo schedule and all. But perception wise if NW Mo is sitting there with 3 losses as the third best team in the conference I don't think Pitt gets that coin flip over Ouachita.

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  • GorillaTeacher
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    Regional Rankings start week 8? Its always interesting to see how they shake out, for sure.

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  • Alfred33
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    Originally posted by EveryCatAWildman View Post

    maybe? a three seed, don't see them getting to the 2 line. If they are undefeated then likely the second best team in the conference has 2 losses.

    So likely at this point Ouachita goes undefeated with the second best team in GAC would be Harding with just 1 loss to Ouachita. So Ouachita undefeated puts them ahead of Pitt. Now it comes down to a one loss Grand Valley or 1 loss Ferris if they overtake Pitt for a 3 seed (if the other is undefeated). They have OOC games to boost them even with a loss as Grand Valley has played Mines and Pueblo, Ferris had C. Washington and LRU. I don't see either falling to the 4 line assuming the only loss is against each other. Then you got a likely undefeated Indianapolis hanging out there with OOC wins over Saginaw Valley and Tiffin

    My guess in that scenario
    10-0 Ferris
    11-0 Ouachita
    10-1 Grand Valley
    11-0 Indianapolis (if Indy is 10-1 then slip to 5 or 6 seed)
    11-0 Pittsburg
    10-1 Harding
    9-2 NWMo/UNK/Saginaw/Davenport

    Watch out for Saginaw Valley/Davenport getting to 9-2 in which case we could finally see the year where the MIAA only gets 1 team. Saggy and DP would have OOC game wins that would look better than the silo of the MIAA
    Wow... who would've ever dreamed that an undefeated team from the MIAA could find itself as a 5 seed? How the mighty have fallen, if this is accurate.

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  • EveryCatAWildman
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    Originally posted by Gorillahawk View Post
    IF a Pitt wins out and does so in convincing fashion, what's the chances of them being the 2 or 3 seed?
    maybe? a three seed, don't see them getting to the 2 line. If they are undefeated then likely the second best team in the conference has 2 losses.

    So likely at this point Ouachita goes undefeated with the second best team in GAC would be Harding with just 1 loss to Ouachita. So Ouachita undefeated puts them ahead of Pitt. Now it comes down to a one loss Grand Valley or 1 loss Ferris if they overtake Pitt for a 3 seed (if the other is undefeated). They have OOC games to boost them even with a loss as Grand Valley has played Mines and Pueblo, Ferris had C. Washington and LRU. I don't see either falling to the 4 line assuming the only loss is against each other. Then you got a likely undefeated Indianapolis hanging out there with OOC wins over Saginaw Valley and Tiffin

    My guess in that scenario
    10-0 Ferris
    11-0 Ouachita
    10-1 Grand Valley
    11-0 Indianapolis (if Indy is 10-1 then slip to 5 or 6 seed)
    11-0 Pittsburg
    10-1 Harding
    9-2 NWMo/UNK/Saginaw/Davenport

    Watch out for Saginaw Valley/Davenport getting to 9-2 in which case we could finally see the year where the MIAA only gets 1 team. Saggy and DP would have OOC game wins that would look better than the silo of the MIAA

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