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I pulled up the postseason for 98, and didn't remember Chadron making the playoffs that year, but they did. It is kind of fun looking back at old po brackets like that.
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Originally posted by UCObluejay View Post
In 1998 UCO was ranked number one in the country and lost to Kingsville in OT in the playoffs. Those Warthogs actually used an ineligible player. UCO claims an undefeated season for that year.
It has been 20 YEARS since UCO made the playoffs. Hopefully that changes SOON!
https://bronchosports.com/sports/football/schedule/1998Do you think they could have hung with NW, UNO, or CN in 98? I'm not doubting it. I'm just asking because I never saw them play.Originally posted by UCObluejay View Post
In 1998 UCO was ranked number one in the country and lost to Kingsville in OT in the playoffs. Those Warthogs actually used an ineligible player. UCO claims an undefeated season for that year.
It has been 20 YEARS since UCO made the playoffs. Hopefully that changes SOON!
https://bronchosports.com/sports/football/schedule/1998
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In 1998 UCO was ranked number one in the country and lost to Kingsville in OT in the playoffs. Those Warthogs actually used an ineligible player. UCO claims an undefeated season for that year.Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
I'm a Pitt fan so I understand success being a distant memory, and I was just having some fun to see if Jimbo was listening.
I don't think UCO has ever fielded a legit d2 contender. ( I'm not a uco historian, so correct me if I'm wrong. I'm wronga lot.)
The closest they came that I remember was the year they had the really good thunder and lightning rb combo. (I think 2014?)
That's not to say they haven't fielded some good teams, just not national caliber.
As far as the comparison to UCM. They both look like sleeping giants to the rest of us.
UCO facilities are nice, but that's nearly universal in the MIAA. The UCO administration may be an advantage over UCM since ucm seems to block their own path. Both are pretty big schools in pretty populous areas by MIAA standards.
I see the 2 as very similar. Both schools have all the pieces, but haven't put them together. A few years ago UCM was a qb injury away from possibly making their first deep playoff run ever. Both schools are trying to find success from the coaching trees of other successful miaa schools. There really isn't 2 poops worth of difference between the 2 from an outsiders perspective.
It has been 20 YEARS since UCO made the playoffs. Hopefully that changes SOON!
https://bronchosports.com/sports/football/schedule/1998
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I'm a Pitt fan so I understand success being a distant memory, and I was just having some fun to see if Jimbo was listening.Originally posted by RollChos View Post
I appreciate you “being fair.” UCO’s success is just so far in the past that no one remembers at this point. I definitely don’t want to argue the program’s merits based on a 1982 NAIA title.
I don't think UCO has ever fielded a legit d2 contender. ( I'm not a uco historian, so correct me if I'm wrong. I'm wronga lot.)
The closest they came that I remember was the year they had the really good thunder and lightning rb combo. (I think 2014?)
That's not to say they haven't fielded some good teams, just not national caliber.
As far as the comparison to UCM. They both look like sleeping giants to the rest of us.
UCO facilities are nice, but that's nearly universal in the MIAA. The UCO administration may be an advantage over UCM since ucm seems to block their own path. Both are pretty big schools in pretty populous areas by MIAA standards.
I see the 2 as very similar. Both schools have all the pieces, but haven't put them together. A few years ago UCM was a qb injury away from possibly making their first deep playoff run ever. Both schools are trying to find success from the coaching trees of other successful miaa schools. There really isn't 2 poops worth of difference between the 2 from an outsiders perspective.Last edited by Predatory Primates; 07-03-2023, 01:31 PM.
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I appreciate you “being fair.” UCO’s success is just so far in the past that no one remembers at this point. I definitely don’t want to argue the program’s merits based on a 1982 NAIA title.Originally posted by Predatory Primates View PostTo be fair, we all have fans like that.
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That was the worst piece of **** football game I’ve ever witnessed. I don’t think either team wanted to win.Originally posted by Kiss My Ass View PostThe Bronchos will come to Warrensburg in week two this year and hopefully it will be a better game for both teams after last year's season ending mess in Edmond.
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That's just UCO guys being uco guys. They have never done jack, but to hear them tell it, they're awesome.Originally posted by Shanghai Mule View Post
As soon as you said "However, in my opinion" I started laughing. What are the actual facts that led you to say that "UCO is a better job than UCM long term" and " UCM would have been a huge demotion". Hey, just pre covid, in 2019 UCM was co-conference champs with NW.
To be fair, we all have fans like that.Last edited by Predatory Primates; 07-03-2023, 08:53 AM.
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Adam Dorrel was a great coach at Northwest and could be again at UCO. But the ACU job proved that Adam is mortal and not Superman. I hope some of Adam's Northwest magic rubbed off on Josh Lamberson. Comparing UCM and UCO - last year UCM finished in 8th place and UCO in 6th place. Over the last ten years UCM leads the series 7-3 with UCO winning last year13-10 in a game where both teams looked like crap. Both teams have tons of work to do, but UCO is leading UCM in the rebuilding race after year one of Dorrel vs Lamberson. The Bronchos will come to Warrensburg in week two this year and hopefully it will be a better game for both teams after last year's season ending mess in Edmond.
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Originally posted by RollChos View Post
Perhaps he would’ve to be back in Missouri. However, in my opinion if he couldn’t go back to NW, UCO is a better job than UCM long term. UCM would’ve been a huge demotion.
As soon as you said "However, in my opinion" I started laughing. What are the actual facts that led you to say that "UCO is a better job than UCM long term" and " UCM would have been a huge demotion". Hey, just pre covid, in 2019 UCM was co-conference champs with NW.
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Thank you, that's exactly the point I was suggesting.Originally posted by northwest missouri state View Post
the biggest issue would be availability in this hypothesis - idk anything about it but i would imagine it's plausible he'd be at cm under kma's scenario.
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you have a guy with chops now though. it still has to be proven on the field obv but i expect co to be a force moving forward, whether that's this season or not when they take that step forward i think it will happen.Originally posted by RollChos View Post
I’ll be the first to admit that we’ve heard that before. This is definitely a pivotal season for the ‘Chos.
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the biggest issue would be availability in this hypothesis - idk anything about it but i would imagine it's plausible he'd be at cm under kma's scenario.Originally posted by RollChos View Post
Perhaps he would’ve to be back in Missouri. However, in my opinion if he couldn’t go back to NW, UCO is a better job than UCM long term. UCM would’ve been a huge demotion.
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I’ll be the first to admit that we’ve heard that before. This is definitely a pivotal season for the ‘Chos.Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
With Hays struggling, UCM flailing, and a new regime at UNK, the door is wide open for UCO to make something happen.
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Perhaps he would’ve to be back in Missouri. However, in my opinion if he couldn’t go back to NW, UCO is a better job than UCM long term. UCM would’ve been a huge demotion.Originally posted by Kiss My Ass View PostOn a side note, I wonder if the UCM job had opened up before UCO, if Adam might have become the Mules coach.
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Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
Will be interesting to see how he does. Based on track record, I'm not sold on him at all.
I agree, after Lambo's two-year debacle at UNK he has a lot to prove. I'm hoping that his years under Adam Dorrel at ACU will be a big benefit. On a side note, I wonder if the UCM job had opened up before UCO, if Adam might have become the Mules coach.
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