Fire Rich Wright

[northwest missouri state]

the issue isn't missing the playoffs this yr. the issue is that rich wright was handed the keys to a mercedes & has overseen gradual decline that is still ongoing. problems in the program on the offensive side haven't been solved in spite of running the regime's initial coord's off & now we're seeing them on the defensive side as well yr over yr.

furthermore our successes during that decline were largely while the rest of the league was down. & by league i mean pitt - the only other program historically that has proved capable of sustained success. they ain't down anymore. cent ok has a championship caliber coach with chops who appears on the up. neither of which is the school who waxed us two days ago, the defending texarkana bowl champions, a power in their own right looking to build off of their 1/5 cc in 2003.

talent is diminished. yr to yr we have sloppy, embarrassing performances. when it isn't turnovers, it's penalties.

these are real problems that continue to trend in the wrong direction, haven't been solved, have grown, & frankly seven yrs in it appears rw is unable to solve in his role as hc b/c he's tried & he hasn't. & no one knows that better than he does.

the push back itt & elsewhere i've seen's spoiled fans & made up nonsense from 2007. by all means, have a crack at addressing the actual issues in the program & offer solutions b/c i'm not keen on wacking the best defensive coach in division 2. that said as hc at this point for the time being he has lost my confidence so idk what other solution there would necessarily be beyond blind faith in the face of evidence that belies it.

[visionpipe]

very good! i just dont take that topic lightly lol

pipe, i owe you an apology and a beer.

Any time I would drink with you.it would be a honor

[reloadmvp]

northwest missouri state PITT and UCO….. GTFOH!!

[visionpipe]

Tap the brake Bearcat fans! It’s just one game against a team that’s been consistently improving. Anyone who watched playoffs last year knows that NW was one of top 4 teams in the country. Even if they slip to # 2 in the MIAA this year, they’ll still be one of best 8-10 teams in D2. A Coach like RW deserves a chance to “Wright” the ship.

The way they played they will have a losing season.hell mo worst mite beat us.if that happens RW needs to be ran out if maryville.

[reloadmvp]

The way they played they will have a losing season.hell mo worst mite beat us.if that happens RW needs to be ran out if maryville.

Probably run him out of NW faster than ESU ran up the score board Thursday night.

[northwest missouri state]

northwest missouri state PITT and UCO….. GTFOH!!

absolutely. imma edit that puppy just for you.

[reloadmvp]

Damn I pressed the wrong button. Idr what I said hahaha. So I’ll just rewrite it. 8 of the last 10 years PITT lost 3 or more games. That’s your co champion in the MIAA? They are as consistent as the rest of us. Please tell me what you consider them to have done in the last decade to “sustain” success? If that is the case, then you will still have a successful season. Success isn’t a winning record.

clearly I’m not the only one still drinking after the game Thursday.

[northwest missouri state]

managed to win two league titles in one of the more forgettable decades of their existence & they're fixin' to add a third.
we've won three despite not fielding an offense for most of the last half decade+.
powers do that even when they're down.
to use an arbitrary time frame like that for such a discussion in the context of my post is short sighted & possibly agenda driven.

[northwest missouri state]

they also tripped & fell into a national championship during their journey through the wilderness. that doesn't happen in emporia, topeka, joplin, etc. guess why?

[GoCatsGo5]

There are two types of leaders…architects and astronauts. Architects are specialists…Astronauts are climbers. I was a good Non-Commissioned Officer….I would have been an average Senior NCO. I was a good Company Grade Officer…I would have been an average Field Grad Officer. Currently, I am a good Branch Chief, but I would be an average Division Chief. The trick in life is realizing what you’re good at and being happy with that. RW is a great D2 DC, and would probably be a pretty good D1 D-line coach…but he is just an average HC. That said, I also think AD was a great D2 OC, would probably make a pretty decent D1 OL coach, but am not convinced we have the 2013-2016 run without the symbiotic relationship of the two. Bottom line, I quite renewing my season tix at the exact right time which was last year.

[reloadmvp]

managed to win two league titles in one of the more forgettable decades of their existence & they're fixin' to add a third.
we've won three despite not fielding an offense for most of the last half decade+.
powers do that even when they're down.
to use an arbitrary time frame like that for such a discussion in the context of my post is short sighted & possibly agenda driven.

They won just one national championship in the last two decades, and calling it agenda-driven to use that timeframe is quite the stretch. It's a convenient reference for evaluating D2 football performance over a substantial period. Let's talk about sustained success: Northwest is the only team in the MIAA that truly exemplifies it, no question about it. Pittsburgh State hasn't been 'PITT' in quite some time.

But let's go back twenty years, so you can try and get your rocks off. In that span, they've claimed the conference title 4 times, compared to Northwest's 8. One of those championships was the year they won it all– far from a 'down year.' The same goes for their other title they weren’t “down”. The rest, well, they weren't particularly remarkable in any given season." If my numbers are off you can blame the MIAA website. Has PITT been good, yeah. Are they that much better than the pack… no. Unless we go back 20 or 30 years when half these current players weren’t even born lmao. Gas was .99 the last time PITT was considered a dynasty.

since 2003:
- Central Missouri: 2 titles (2003*, 2019*)
- Fort Hays State: 2 titles (2017, 2018*)
- Missouri Western: 2 titles (2003*, 2012)
- Washburn: 1 title (2005)
- Emporia State: 1 title (2003*)
- Pittsburg State: 5 titles (2003*, 2004, 2011, 2014*, 2022)
- Northwest Missouri: 13 titles (2003*, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014*, 2015, 2016, 2018*, 2019*, 2021)
Some of these are split ships*

AND, they aren’t anywhere close to winning a title in 2023. It’s week 2. You are silly!

[reloadmvp]

they also tripped & fell into a national championship during their journey through the wilderness. that doesn't happen in emporia, topeka, joplin, etc. guess why?

Ya because no other team in D2 has randomly won a national title and never been seen again. AND let’s be honest, if the road to the title game didn’t include playing someone in the MIAA twice. Yes, any of the other teams in the MIAA who have made it to the playoffs. Would have had a 80-90% chance of winning it all.

[Predatory Primates]

they also tripped & fell into a national championship during their journey through the wilderness. that doesn't happen in emporia, topeka, joplin, etc. guess why?

I think 2011 WU came the closest if Pitt hadn't beaten them in the early rounds. I thought they were the toughest playoff team Pitt faced that year by a pretty wide margin.

It's tough to tell because they were facing a Pitt staff from the same coaching tree with the same tricks and tendencies that they had been showing every year since the late 80s.

I'm not sold on Schurig as a coach who can beat a team the first time they play them when that team has about the same talent level as them.

I feel the same way about Higgins.

That's a big factor in the playoffs, imo, and I think the silo has made it much worse. I think RW has done a decent job of it. Getting NW to play GV as close as they did last year took great preparation. GV was the more talented team by a fairly large margin, imo.

[Predatory Primates]

It's really tough. Coaches, many of whom have spent their entire playing and coaching careers within that system tend to have so much buy in that they surround themselves with others who have that same buy in. Any business will stagnate without new ideas and new people. It works until it doesn't.

[PSR]

They won just one national championship in the last two decades, and calling it agenda-driven to use that timeframe is quite the stretch. It's a convenient reference for evaluating D2 football performance over a substantial period. Let's talk about sustained success: Northwest is the only team in the MIAA that truly exemplifies it, no question about it. Pittsburgh State hasn't been 'PITT' in quite some time.

But let's go back twenty years, so you can try and get your rocks off. In that span, they've claimed the conference title 4 times, compared to Northwest's 8. One of those championships was the year they won it all– far from a 'down year.' The same goes for their other title they weren’t “down”. The rest, well, they weren't particularly remarkable in any given season." If my numbers are off you can blame the MIAA website. Has PITT been good, yeah. Are they that much better than the pack… no. Unless we go back 20 or 30 years when half these current players weren’t even born lmao. Gas was .99 the last time PITT was considered a dynasty.

since 2000:
• Northwest Missouri State: 9 championships (2016, 2015, 2013, 2002, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006)
• Pittsburg State: 6 championships (2022, 2014, 2011, 2004, 2001, 2000)
• Fort Hays State: 2 championships (2018, 2017)
• Central Missouri: 2 championships (2019, 2003)
• Missouri Western: 1 championship (2012)
• Washburn: 1 championship (2005)
• Emporia State: 1 championship (2003)
Some of these are split ships*



AND, they aren’t anywhere close to winning a title in 2023. It’s week 2. You are silly!

Pitts decline started in 2006 and went through 2019. In that time they made the playoffs only 3 times but was able to catch lightning in a bottle in 11 and win a NC. They had a real shot at another one in 14. During that period Broyles was absent and Beck wasn't the answer. Beck = Rich Wright, IMO. Both excellent Coordinators and average at best HC.

Since 2019 Pitt has gathered itself and is in the process of becoming the 800 pound Gorilla it once was. We still need to gain some weight but we are on our way.

The game this year with ESU hopefully will be between two undefeated teams and the game for the MIAA title. I thought ESU was the 2nd best team in the MIAA last year but did its annual pee down the leg against NW in a big game. ESU got over that hump this year and now you have a formidable foe waiting for you in Pittsburg.

Come get some!