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Originally posted by the Northeasterner View PostAtlanta is a much bigger urban area than okc. And uco is smack dab in middle of our and osu. And it's osu that will put pressure on state legislature. They have done it before.
I'm not saying it can't Be done but they need a much more successful football program to get the resources and push.
On different note as of right now I see the wac focusing on fcs and let nmsu roam. It will work out well for them. They get paychecks early and Garunted games late with dixie and tarleton throw in liberty and umass, uconn, byu.
There is enough for a independent d1 school can survive
And who knows maybe uca leaves and goes to ovc and southland opens up.
Northern colorado should join. But won't unless it's sixth or seventh school
Knee jerk state political resistance would have to be overcome, but (after covid) I'm not sure that would be overwhelming problem. If OU/OSU fans fear competition for the best in state players.........well, they must have legalized pot sales in Oklahoma.
Otherwise, a WAC UCO makes a lot of sense if, for example; ACU (Southland), WT, Commerce, ASU, TAMUK?, MSU?, UTPB?, joined up with a couple Big Sky schools and a couple WAC schools added FB. As was said earlier, geographically, UCO would be a great fit. A FB conference schedule. An East / West divisional set up for all other sports.
A pretty good arrangement.Last edited by BuffaloChip; 09-04-2020, 02:04 PM.
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Originally posted by BuffaloChip View Post
It would be a gross coaching miscarriage for OU and OSU, if an FCS UCO recruited the same athletes those Power 5 perennial Top 20 teams were offering. UCO would be well positioned to sweep up the OU/OSU rejects and program wash outs. Tulsa would have more to fear from UCO.
Knee jerk state political resistance would have to be overcome, but (after covid) I'm not sure that would be overwhelming problem. If OU/OSU fans fear competition for the best in state players.........well, they must have legalized pot sales in Oklahoma.
Otherwise, a WAC UCO makes a lot of sense if, for example; ACU (Southland), WT, Commerce, ASU, TAMUK?, MSU?, UTPB?, joined up with a couple Big Sky schools and a couple WAC schools added FB. As was said earlier, geographically, UCO would be a great fit. A FB conference schedule. An East / West divisional set up for all other sports.
A pretty good arrangement.
1 opposition from big boys
2 lack of recent football success
3. Lack of urban area support/ corporate sponsorship
Solve two of those and its a good chance . Tulsa doesn't really have to worry about being more desirable destination because of better scholarship opportunities. Full vs partials. Tulsa does get a bunch of ok kids. Sometime s more than ou and osu lol.
Your argument s about location are valid but getting any school to leave a stable conference for wac is a stretch until you get to at least 5. Schools. Big south has struggled keeping football schools because of
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Uco is "bigger " than most miaa schools but not by much. For now I think they are were they belong
Wtamu has different set of conditions. It is a bigger than most rest of lsc. If tamuc leaves you will see wtamu split fast. .
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Originally posted by the Northeasterner View Post
If it was only factor against uco in fcs. I would agree but I think it's one of three.
1 opposition from big boys
2 lack of recent football success
3. Lack of urban area support/ corporate sponsorship
Solve two of those and its a good chance . Tulsa doesn't really have to worry about being more desirable destination because of better scholarship opportunities. Full vs partials. Tulsa does get a bunch of ok kids. Sometime s more than ou and osu lol.
Your argument s about location are valid but getting any school to leave a stable conference for wac is a stretch until you get to at least 5. Schools. Big south has struggled keeping football schools because of
???o this
Uco is "bigger " than most miaa schools but not by much. For now I think they are were they belong
Wtamu has different set of conditions. It is a bigger than most rest of lsc. If tamuc leaves you will see wtamu split fast. .
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Originally posted by BuffaloChip View Post
All valid points. UCO was @19,000 students for fall 2019. Still a commuter school.
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Originally posted by BuffaloChip View Post
It would be a gross coaching miscarriage for OU and OSU, if an FCS UCO recruited the same athletes those Power 5 perennial Top 20 teams were offering. UCO would be well positioned to sweep up the OU/OSU rejects and program wash outs. Tulsa would have more to fear from UCO.
Knee jerk state political resistance would have to be overcome, but (after covid) I'm not sure that would be overwhelming problem. If OU/OSU fans fear competition for the best in state players.........well, they must have legalized pot sales in Oklahoma.
Otherwise, a WAC UCO makes a lot of sense if, for example; ACU (Southland), WT, Commerce, ASU, TAMUK?, MSU?, UTPB?, joined up with a couple Big Sky schools and a couple WAC schools added FB. As was said earlier, geographically, UCO would be a great fit. A FB conference schedule. An East / West divisional set up for all other sports.
A pretty good arrangement.Last edited by LSC Fan; 09-07-2020, 11:11 AM.
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