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    Kelly Lee heading to Brownsville Veterans HS.

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    Eastern New Mexico head coach Kelley Lee has left his job to be the head coach at Veterans High School in Brownsville, Texas. Veterans announced the hire Tuesday evening. Lee had been the head coach at Eastern New Mexico since 2017 and leaves the school as, arguably, its most successful coach ever. His .636 winning […]
    Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out?"

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    I'm sure being shut down for a year made this easy for him. Too bad for ENMU

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    • #3
      It's going to be a long road to recovery after this.
      I have fat thumbs sorry for typos!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Buff Fan 05 View Post
        I'm sure being shut down for a year made this easy for him. Too bad for ENMU
        That's a shame. He did a good job, plus it's a step down for him too. I personally wouldn't want to live in Brownsville, simply because the climate is even worse than Houston.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Boohaha View Post
          It's going to be a long road to recovery after this.
          You could go after ENMU alumni Mike Nesbitt. He's had some success in Surprise, AZ. That was a surprise to me.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

            That's a shame. He did a good job, plus it's a step down for him too. I personally wouldn't want to live in Brownsville, simply because the climate is even worse than Houston.
            Its hard to be a football coach without football.

            Its going to be a long year in NM. ENMU will not be able to do anything till the fall.

            I don't think it will be a step down, just a step sideways honestly if it were not for this year he would have stayed at ENMU and only left if he got an offer to a d1 OC or HC job. But with this past year and the inability to hang onto player due to no season, the writting was on the wall.

            I just hope the program can survive this.
            I have fat thumbs sorry for typos!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Boohaha View Post

              Its hard to be a football coach without football.

              Its going to be a long year in NM. ENMU will not be able to do anything till the fall.

              I don't think it will be a step down, just a step sideways honestly if it were not for this year he would have stayed at ENMU and only left if he got an offer to a d1 OC or HC job. But with this past year and the inability to hang onto player due to no season, the writting was on the wall.

              I just hope the program can survive this.
              I hope so too. Best of luck.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Boohaha View Post

                Its hard to be a football coach without football.

                Its going to be a long year in NM. ENMU will not be able to do anything till the fall.

                I don't think it will be a step down, just a step sideways honestly if it were not for this year he would have stayed at ENMU and only left if he got an offer to a d1 OC or HC job. But with this past year and the inability to hang onto player due to no season, the writting was on the wall.

                I just hope the program can survive this.
                Do you honestly think they would cut the football program?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Buff Fan 05 View Post

                  Do you honestly think they would cut the football program?
                  I don't think so. At place like ENMU football is huge for enrollment. I read study one time that said for every football player that attends a school like ENMU he brings 3 other students with him. That is their most successful program and they just built a new stadium. I can't see it being dropped.

                  I do think they need to be careful about who they hire. They need to keep recruiting New Mexico kids and running the triple option. in the last 25 years when they ran the triple they were a solid program. When they didn't it was disastrous.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fred View Post

                    I don't think so. At place like ENMU football is huge for enrollment. I read study one time that said for every football player that attends a school like ENMU he brings 3 other students with him. That is their most successful program and they just built a new stadium. I can't see it being dropped.

                    I do think they need to be careful about who they hire. They need to keep recruiting New Mexico kids and running the triple option. in the last 25 years when they ran the triple they were a solid program. When they didn't it was disastrous.
                    They might not cut the program but they might not increase the funding for it the way they have either.
                    I have fat thumbs sorry for typos!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Buff Fan 05 View Post

                      Do you honestly think they would cut the football program?
                      No but it was a tall order to keep the program momentum going after this year and now it's even harder.
                      I have fat thumbs sorry for typos!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Boohaha View Post

                        Its hard to be a football coach without football.

                        Its going to be a long year in NM. ENMU will not be able to do anything till the fall.

                        I don't think it will be a step down, just a step sideways honestly if it were not for this year he would have stayed at ENMU and only left if he got an offer to a d1 OC or HC job. But with this past year and the inability to hang onto player due to no season, the writting was on the wall.

                        I just hope the program can survive this.
                        Interesting move for sure.

                        Brownsville is in the RGV which by definition by the Fed Gov and other government agencies is considered to be in one of the more impoverished areas in the nation. But they get a lot of their schools facilities paid for by state tax dollars taken from wealthy districts in the state via “Robin Hood” which allows them to free up local dollars to build some very nice football facilities that kick the crap out of TAMUKs by a long shot. A few of the schools down there also pay their coaches well...talking about 80, 90k or more without any other duties save being campus coordinators which means they basically show up to non football events and maybe stand around. Good gig if you can get one!

                        He might never win a state title down as the last time a team from that region won a state football title was 1961. But I’d be curious to see what he can do with the triple option as that’s an offense among others like the Slot T and Wing T that should be utilized more by teams down there that lack speed.
                        Last edited by LSC Fan; 03-06-2021, 10:10 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LSC Fan View Post

                          Interesting move for sure.

                          Brownsville is in the RGV which by definition by the Fed Gov and other government agencies is considered to be in one of the more impoverished areas in the nation. But they get a lot of their schools facilities paid for by state tax dollars taken from wealthy districts in the state via “Robin Hood” which allows them to free up local dollars to build some very nice football facilities that kick the crap out of TAMUKs by a long shot. A few of the schools down there also pay their coaches well...talking about 80, 90k or more without any other duties save being campus coordinators which means they basically show up to non football events and maybe stand around. Good gig if you can get one!

                          He might never win a state title down as the last time a team from that region won a state football title was 1961. But I’d be curious to see what he can do with the triple option as that’s an offense among others like the Slot T and Wing T that should be utilized more by teams down there that lack speed.
                          Couple of points on two very different topics.

                          1) The triple option would definitely be the way to go. Tascosa high school in Amarillo installed the flex bone and it has made a world of difference. Other teams in the district can defend it because they see it but teams in the playoffs especially the Dallas metroplex schools would get smoked because they couldnt stop it and/or have young head coaches that were only brought up coaching/defending pro style offenses. If the coach dedicates themselves to developing athletic big boys on the offensive line it works like a charm. Tascosa puts their best athletes on defense and gets a couple of stops/turnovers a game. Of course problem is if they fall behind a couple of scores it becomes an issue. This even works at the 6A level.

                          2) Working for the federal government you get higher locality and more money working in the Laredo area than you do in the Austin area. Not sure about the Brownsville area but I always thought that was insane.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                            Couple of points on two very different topics.

                            1) The triple option would definitely be the way to go. Tascosa high school in Amarillo installed the flex bone and it has made a world of difference. Other teams in the district can defend it because they see it but teams in the playoffs especially the Dallas metroplex schools would get smoked because they couldnt stop it and/or have young head coaches that were only brought up coaching/defending pro style offenses. If the coach dedicates themselves to developing athletic big boys on the offensive line it works like a charm. Tascosa puts their best athletes on defense and gets a couple of stops/turnovers a game. Of course problem is if they fall behind a couple of scores it becomes an issue. This even works at the 6A level.

                            2) Working for the federal government you get higher locality and more money working in the Laredo area than you do in the Austin area. Not sure about the Brownsville area but I always thought that was insane.
                            A few of our local teams run Wing and Slot T and Triple Option as well. Kind of the same success you have with Amarillo when it comes to playing a Houston or East Texas team where 95% of their opponents run the same spread like offenses and then it comes playoffs and they face us with game clock grinding offense. We’ve won a few of those and lost a few. The ones we lost we were probably predicted to lose big time, but managed to take them to the wire.

                            I think Fed Gov treats the RGV the same as Laredo, but with law enforcement it seems like over the past decade or so they’ve done better recruiting locals to take the jobs and they come back home after their respective academies. Helps tremendously with not having newbies having to learn the culture, language, etc which is very different in the RGV and Laredo vs even other parts of the state and certainly the nation.

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                            • #15
                              Do the Greyhounds go back to a pass-dominant offense again?


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