WT Football

[WPHB]

I have heard ZERO about Wt recruiting. Has anyone heard anything??

GWB, I had been following local (WT, UTPB, Angelo) recruiting until the beginning of the year. I know that there was a severe drop-off in offers/commits to WT from the 806 and 432 area codes this year. Not sure what the reasoning is, but they just didn't recruit or didn't find what they were looking for locally. I know lots of local kids were looking for WT to recruit them, but it never materialized. Guess they aren't interested in Amarillo, Lubbock, Midland, Odessa, or San Angelo area athletes. Several kids I know opted for other D2, D3 and in some cases FCS schools instead of waiting around for WT. I know it left a sour feeling with at least two (different) HS coaches.

[Great White Buffalo]

I have heard ZERO about Wt recruiting. Has anyone heard anything??

Just got this E-mail.

Please join us on February 2^nd

[Great White Buffalo]

I have heard ZERO about Wt recruiting. Has anyone heard anything??

[Techster88]

For those of you in love with the WT on campus stadium, here's the high school stadium near me. No I've never been in it, but I'm paying for it. I'm not a fan of building new stadiums when they aren't needed - at any level. What's important is having a good team.

https://www.berrycenter.net/stadium

Nice Stadium and you see it helped as Cy Fair win a State Championship in 2017. My Mother in Law graduated from Cypress-Fairbanks. They had a whopping 53 students in her senior class.

[WT_TKW]

For those of you in love with the WT on campus stadium, here's the high school stadium near me. No I've never been in it, but I'm paying for it. I'm not a fan of building new stadiums when they aren't needed - at any level. What's important is having a good team.

https://www.berrycenter.net/stadium

[ASUPops]

Pops, the fact of the matter with the teams they have had for the five plus years and the attendance numbers which are spiked because of the Reliant stadium game with SFA leads me to believe they couldn't draw flies with Earthmovers full of manure. These numbers aren't going to change playing CUSA teams which will draw even less interest than their old SLC rivals. Its a commuter school and a ghost town every weekend. Only folks not departing Huntsville come Friday afternoon are those incarcerated at the state pen.

All that being said, I wish them the best but this has the makings of a titanic failure.

My son was at SHSU. And as I said....their tailgate was PACKED and off the hook. But as you say, almost NO ONE went to the games.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Pops, the fact of the matter with the teams they have had for the five plus years and the attendance numbers which are spiked because of the Reliant stadium game with SFA leads me to believe they couldn't draw flies with Earthmovers full of manure. These numbers aren't going to change playing CUSA teams which will draw even less interest than their old SLC rivals. Its a commuter school and a ghost town every weekend. Only folks not departing Huntsville come Friday afternoon are those incarcerated at the state pen.

All that being said, I wish them the best but this has the makings of a titanic failure.

I agree with ASUPops that their tailgate is fantastic. I only live 30 miles from Huntsville now so I am able to go to the games. So much so that my step daughter is showing more interest in SHSU than TAMUCC.

Real test for attendance is going to be when they are no longer the top dog in a true playoff format like FCS and are finishing 6-5, 5-6, etc. to schools like UTEP, Liberty, and Louisiana Tech hoping to play in the New Mexico bowl.

I suspect there will be a couple of "Ohio State's" on the schedule to help with costs.

The D2 to FCS jump is more understandable since you still have a traditional football playoff format in FCS but also gain the rest of the D1 perks and teams in their playoff format as well.

[Techster88]

Have you been to a SHSU tailgate? The crowd is fantastic. All the classic cars are awesome. I love it. IF they could get the tailgate crowd into the games, they would be sold out at every home game.

Pops, the fact of the matter with the teams they have had for the five plus years and the attendance numbers which are spiked because of the Reliant stadium game with SFA leads me to believe they couldn't draw flies with Earthmovers full of manure. These numbers aren't going to change playing CUSA teams which will draw even less interest than their old SLC rivals. Its a commuter school and a ghost town every weekend. Only folks not departing Huntsville come Friday afternoon are those incarcerated at the state pen.

All that being said, I wish them the best but this has the makings of a titanic failure.

[ASUPops]

Have you been to a SHSU tailgate? The crowd is fantastic. All the classic cars are awesome. I love it. IF they could get the tailgate crowd into the games, they would be sold out at every home game.

[Techster88]

[oldbuff]

[QUOTEThink you meant FCS not FBS.[/QUOTE]
Yes I did. Thanks. Also there are 20 schools. not 21.

[ASUPops]

Here are some 2021 football attendance figures for 20 teams comprised of 5 LSC school and 16 FBS schools. Quite interesting when one usually thinks being D1 automatically means full stadiums. These numbers make you wonder how most of these FBS schools afford football, much less being D1. They also illustrate why WT has, so far, opted out of moving to D1. It's hard to justify, although I would like to see WT do it. But that would mean increases in ticker prices, donor contributions and student fees (if that is possible).

University......................................Av e. Home Attendance....... Largest Home Crowd
1. New Mexico State............................11,845........... .........................19,034
2. Tarleton.......................................... . 9,082................................... 16,216
3. SFA............................................... . 8,866................................... 10,035
4. ACU............................................... .7,415................................... .10,121
5. Midwestern...................................... 7,358..................................... 8,200
6. San Houston State........................... 7,339..................................... 9,836
7. Nicholls State ..................................6,855........... .......................... 7,402
8. WTAMU........................................... 6,715 ....................................9,326
9. NWSU Louisiana.............................. 6,566 .....................................9,146
10. TAMUK.......................................... 6,343..................................... 8,537
11, Northern AZ.................................... 6,118..................................... 9,713
12. TAMU-Commerce............................ 5,856..................................... 8,269
13. Lamar............................................. 5,741..................................... 6,812
14. Northern Colorado............................ 5,168..................................... 5,769
15. Dixie State...................................... 4,428..................................... 8,280
16. S. Utah........................................... 4.591..................................... 7,096
17. SE Louisiana................................... 4,003 .....................................7.389
18. Angelo State.................................... 3,665..................................... 4,873
19. Incarnate Word................................. 2,290..................................... 3,220
20. Houston Baptist................................ 2,148 .....................................2,362

Think you meant FCS not FBS.

[WT&TTECHfan]

Here are some 2021 football attendance figures for 20 teams comprised of 5 LSC school and 16 FBS schools. Quite interesting when one usually thinks being D1 automatically means full stadiums. These numbers make you wonder how most of these FBS schools afford football, much less being D1. They also illustrate why WT has, so far, opted out of moving to D1. It's hard to justify, although I would like to see WT do it. But that would mean increases in ticker prices, donor contributions and student fees (if that is possible).

University......................................Av e. Home Attendance....... Largest Home Crowd
1. New Mexico State............................11,845........... .........................19,034
2. Tarleton.......................................... . 9,082................................... 16,216
3. SFA............................................... . 8,866................................... 10,035
4. ACU............................................... .7,415................................... .10,121
5. Midwestern...................................... 7,358..................................... 8,200
6. San Houston State........................... 7,339..................................... 9,836
7. Nicholls State ..................................6,855........... .......................... 7,402
8. WTAMU........................................... 6,715 ....................................9,326
9. NWSU Louisiana.............................. 6,566 .....................................9,146
10. TAMUK.......................................... 6,343..................................... 8,537
11, Northern AZ.................................... 6,118..................................... 9,713
12. TAMU-Commerce............................ 5,856..................................... 8,269
13. Lamar............................................. 5,741..................................... 6,812
14. Northern Colorado............................ 5,168..................................... 5,769
15. Dixie State...................................... 4,428..................................... 8,280
16. S. Utah........................................... 4.591..................................... 7,096
17. SE Louisiana................................... 4,003 .....................................7.389
18. Angelo State.................................... 3,665..................................... 4,873
19. Incarnate Word................................. 2,290..................................... 3,220
20. Houston Baptist................................ 2,148 .....................................2,362

[oldbuff]

Here are some 2021 football attendance figures for 20 teams comprised of 5 LSC school and 15 FCS schools. Quite interesting when one usually thinks being D1 automatically means full stadiums. These numbers make you wonder how most of these FCS schools afford football, much less being D1. They also illustrate why WT has, so far, opted out of moving to D1. It's hard to justify, although I would like to see WT do it. But that would mean increases in ticker prices, donor contributions and student fees (if that is possible).

University......................................Av e. Home Attendance....... Largest Home Crowd
1. New Mexico State............................11,845........... .........................19,034
2. Tarleton.......................................... . 9,082................................... 16,216
3. SFA............................................... . 8,866................................... 10,035
4. ACU............................................... .7,415................................... .10,121
5. Midwestern...................................... 7,358..................................... 8,200
6. San Houston State........................... 7,339..................................... 9,836
7. Nicholls State ..................................6,855........... .......................... 7,402
8. WTAMU........................................... 6,715 ....................................9,326
9. NWSU Louisiana.............................. 6,566 .....................................9,146
10. TAMUK.......................................... 6,343..................................... 8,537
11, Northern AZ.................................... 6,118..................................... 9,713
12. TAMU-Commerce............................ 5,856..................................... 8,269
13. Lamar............................................. 5,741..................................... 6,812
14. Northern Colorado............................ 5,168..................................... 5,769
15. Dixie State...................................... 4,428..................................... 8,280
16. S. Utah........................................... 4.591..................................... 7,096
17. SE Louisiana................................... 4,003 .....................................7.389
18. Angelo State.................................... 3,665..................................... 4,873
19. Incarnate Word................................. 2,290..................................... 3,220
20. Houston Baptist................................ 2,148 .....................................2,362

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Buffalo Stadium is certainly in the top 3 in D2 for sure.

When you speak of smaller D1's, I am assuming you are speaking of FCS (1aa)?

As far as WT football attendance, I agree. With C9VID everything is off. But, college football attendance has been on the decline at all levels. Even Alabama.

IMO, Hughes MUST win the LSC Championship. No more "or's"(i.e.win OR at least make the play-offs).

If WT wants a CHAMPIONSHIP level football program, they need a blue-chip, blockbuster coach (like a Colby Carthel). And that apparently is not Hughes.

WT should at minimum make the playoffs just because of attrition in the LSC (Tarleton, ACU, and Commerce since the last time WT made the playoffs). Central Washington will be a quality replacement for Commerce.

It will come down to going through the LSC with only one loss however thats not guaranteed (see Midwestern State last year).