WT Football

[Turbonium]

If your theory is correct, RMAC instititions will be looking at greener grass as well, no? Anything's possible, right?

It is possible indeed, as soon as each of them triples enrollment and wins power ball :) maybe next year.

[ASUPops]

I'm not saying it is. But I'm assuming 2-3 years ago you didn't see OU joining the SEC. If so, good on you and you're a smart guy so maybe you were in the know, but things can quickly change. I don't personally care what the LSC does, I like the football played in the conference, and the people on here associated with the teams....but you never know. Look at the GNAC and the predicament they're in. We also know that the majority of America is the sort that the grass is greener and schools are looking at moving up a la Tarleton. No dog in the fight, just discussing future possibilities.

Can anything happen??? Of course (i.e. Joe Biden is president) so, yes. ANYTHING can happen. But, folding a conference with 18 member institutions is not one of them.

Will some LSC teams move up,, down,, or sideways? Probably at some point.

FYI, I didn't know about OU, but I did Texas. Been in the works for several years.

If your theory is correct, RMAC instititions will be looking at greener grass as well, no? Anything's possible, right?

[AngeloFan]

I'm not saying it is. But I'm assuming 2-3 years ago you didn't see OU joining the SEC. If so, good on you and you're a smart guy so maybe you were in the know, but things can quickly change. I don't personally care what the LSC does, I like the football played in the conference, and the people on here associated with the teams....but you never know. Look at the GNAC and the predicament they're in. We also know that the majority of America is the sort that the grass is greener and schools are looking at moving up a la Tarleton. No dog in the fight, just discussing future possibilities.

Some of the LSC football schools are getting ready to move out because they see the conference office as leaning toward the demands of the non football schools who are in the majority. This was predictable and expected, just not this quick. It was 9-9 but Tarleton leaving changed all of that.

[Turbonium]

The LSC is NOT crumbling...lmao.

Don't you see the trend? Every time things change in the LSC, the sky is falling and the LSC is folding. But we all know that the majority of human kind are optimistic! 70707070707

I'm not saying it is. But I'm assuming 2-3 years ago you didn't see OU joining the SEC. If so, good on you and you're a smart guy so maybe you were in the know, but things can quickly change. I don't personally care what the LSC does, I like the football played in the conference, and the people on here associated with the teams....but you never know. Look at the GNAC and the predicament they're in. We also know that the majority of America is the sort that the grass is greener and schools are looking at moving up a la Tarleton. No dog in the fight, just discussing future possibilities.

[ASUPops]

Well, this is a football forum so the 27 people that watch D2 softball can rejoice but if the LSC were to crumble then a solution for WT should likely already be known, not figured out at the last minute.

The LSC is NOT crumbling...lmao.

Don't you see the trend? Every time things change in the LSC, the sky is falling and the LSC is folding. But we all know that the majority of human kind are optimistic! 70707070707

[Turbonium]

Well, Well who's looking at saying "the LSC is dying", the mighty Aggies! What do the other posters of the LSC say? Poor WT, DII softball National Champs, National Runner Up DII mens basketball, track & field All-Americans, ect. Yea, everyone is feeling sorry for us (and wished they had our record).

Well, this is a football forum so the 27 people that watch D2 softball can rejoice but if the LSC were to crumble then a solution for WT should likely already be known, not figured out at the last minute.

[exbuff72]

WT is in a pickle.

Their current conference is dying.

Their plans to move to the Big 12 has lost its appeal since they scared off OU and UT.

Being a D2 independent is a problem since some of the conferences play silo schedules. Where will they find teams to play?

Having spent all that money on a big, fancy stadium (which I am happy to see), they can't just drop football. Again.

Their other options are the D3/NAIA route. I suspect they are testing the waters.

Well, Well who's looking at saying "the LSC is dying", the mighty Aggies! What do the other posters of the LSC say? Poor WT, DII softball National Champs, National Runner Up DII mens basketball, track & field All-Americans, ect. Yea, everyone is feeling sorry for us (and wished they had our record).

[WT_TKW]

Any guesses on the game tomorrow? I am worried about this one. I might predict we would win by a field goal, but I don't think we ever have in the Hughes era. At least we used a different kicker last game.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

I think the RMAC is the logical move if a move has to be made eventually. Some of the travel would be rough but for the most part very doable in a day. About 7 hours to Mines, 5 to Pueblo, 10 to Mesa. Spearfish would be 12 hours, I think that's the longest trip they'd have. Beyond possibly Mesa I don't see any of the schools in the conference moving out of D2 either so some stability is seemingly present as well.

As far as getting people in the stands, one thing will do that - win games.

The long trips shouldn't bother WT since that Kingsville bus ride is a lot of hours. Good point on the RMAC stability. Hopefully WT wins early and often to fill the stadium.

[Turbonium]

Yeah you dont build a new stadium to move down a division.

I do agree WT is in a tough spot. If the LSC folds and they dont catch the D1 train then I would think the most likely landing spots would be the RMAC or the GAC.

RMAC is more desirable than they were 10 years ago now that Mines and Pueblo are good respectable teams. It seems like they do well regionally in basketball and baseball.

Does the GAC have a scholarship limit? Might be resistance there since the Oklahoma schools were "nudged" out of the new LSC.

Independent football would suck. Then you run the risk of going 9-1 like Humboldt state did a few years ago and miss the playoffs.

Deciding factor is can you get decent crowds to watch home games against South Dakota Mines and Black Hills or take the D1 jump and advertise SFA, SHSU, Utah Valley, etc.?

Downside is most casual fans aren't going to know the difference and may not care. The main difference is having a shot at postseason NCAA baseball, basketball, etc. televised tournaments.

I think the RMAC is the logical move if a move has to be made eventually. Some of the travel would be rough but for the most part very doable in a day. About 7 hours to Mines, 5 to Pueblo, 10 to Mesa. Spearfish would be 12 hours, I think that's the longest trip they'd have. Beyond possibly Mesa I don't see any of the schools in the conference moving out of D2 either so some stability is seemingly present as well.

As far as getting people in the stands, one thing will do that - win games.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

I could never disagree more.

Yeah you dont build a new stadium to move down a division.

I do agree WT is in a tough spot. If the LSC folds and they dont catch the D1 train then I would think the most likely landing spots would be the RMAC or the GAC.

RMAC is more desirable than they were 10 years ago now that Mines and Pueblo are good respectable teams. It seems like they do well regionally in basketball and baseball.

Does the GAC have a scholarship limit? Might be resistance there since the Oklahoma schools were "nudged" out of the new LSC.

Independent football would suck. Then you run the risk of going 9-1 like Humboldt state did a few years ago and miss the playoffs.

Deciding factor is can you get decent crowds to watch home games against South Dakota Mines and Black Hills or take the D1 jump and advertise SFA, SHSU, Utah Valley, etc.?

Downside is most casual fans aren't going to know the difference and may not care. The main difference is having a shot at postseason NCAA baseball, basketball, etc. televised tournaments.

[Techster88]

I dont know the whole story but WT may have had trouble finding a D2 non con game (Didnt look like that was a problem for Angelo, ENMU, Commerce).

WT tried the D1 route of SFA and ACU. Didn't go so well with SFA and who knows with ACU since it was cancelled.

Yeah that Texas College game was a turd on the schedule so maybe all this was is a glorified scrimmage to give everyone game time and confidence going up into the UTPB game.

We will definitely know next week where WT stands in the middle of the LSC pack and then the Mines game week 4.

If WT is 5-0 going into that Angelo State game then they have a decent shot at the playoffs.

Lose to UTPB and Angelo and its time for Hughes to update that resume and possibly go back to coordinator duties elsewhere.

UTPeanutButter picked up another W in week one In Missouri. Picking up where they left off if that is any indicator during Covid. I do believe Carrigan has them playing with confidence. If WT loses this one folks are going to have to take a long look at Hughes and decide what they want out of their program.

[ASUPops]

WT is in a pickle.

Their current conference is dying.

Their plans to move to the Big 12 has lost its appeal since they scared off OU and UT.

Being a D2 independent is a problem since some of the conferences play silo schedules. Where will they find teams to play?

Having spent all that money on a big, fancy stadium (which I am happy to see), they can't just drop football. Again.

Their other options are the D3/NAIA route. I suspect they are testing the waters.

I could never disagree more.

[ASUPops]

No, I am definitely an OUTSIDER. I enjoyed good football in a historic venue with plenty of parking and easy access from Amarillo. Supposedly it was WAY to expensive to fix, ADA, bad lighting, too far away (1 mile), blah blah blah. Of course CISD has had no problems fixing it up on their own after buying it and the land for the price of a nice home.

A move to D1 will never happen with the current administration, unless the mothership mandates it.

Maybe we will move down to the NAIA, since we love playing those teams. We could get Nesbitt, who is successful at that level, back as coach and brag it's the best stadium in the NAIA!

Haha.

[OPSUALUM77&81]

WT is in a pickle.

Their current conference is dying.

Their plans to move to the Big 12 has lost its appeal since they scared off OU and UT.

Being a D2 independent is a problem since some of the conferences play silo schedules. Where will they find teams to play?

Having spent all that money on a big, fancy stadium (which I am happy to see), they can't just drop football. Again.

Their other options are the D3/NAIA route. I suspect they are testing the waters.