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  • #61
    Originally posted by Wildcat Khan View Post

    What about Nolan Ryan? I feel his 7 no-hitters will never be beat.

    Speaking of losing in a masterful game, I once saw Chris Bosio pitch into the 7th with a no-hitter and was trailing. Walk and error scored a run and Mariners couldn't score.
    Nolan Ryan was great but no Sandy Koufax. He had a lot of walks and never won a Cy Young.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Wildcat Khan View Post

      What about Nolan Ryan? I feel his 7 no-hitters will never be beat.

      Speaking of losing in a masterful game, I once saw Chris Bosio pitch into the 7th with a no-hitter and was trailing. Walk and error scored a run and Mariners couldn't score.
      Records are made to be beat. It will happen.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

        Nolan Ryan was great but no Sandy Koufax. He had a lot of walks and never won a Cy Young.
        While Nolan was good and had some counting stats due to longevity, he was an ERA+ of 112, which means he was 12% better than average. Good, bot nowhere near Gibson, Koufax, and others. That figure ties him for 304th all time.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Runnin' Cat View Post

          While Nolan was good and had some counting stats due to longevity, he was an ERA+ of 112, which means he was 12% better than average. Good, bot nowhere near Gibson, Koufax, and others. That figure ties him for 304th all time.
          He beat the s**t out of Robin Ventura. That make him the GOAT of the Rangers

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

            Nolan Ryan was great but no Sandy Koufax. He had a lot of walks and never won a Cy Young.
            The BEST modern day pitcher (from 80's to current) is Randy Johnson. No question about it.

            The BEST of all time is Christy Mathewson (pitcher for the NY Giants).

            Koufax is absolutely a top 10 of all times. That '55 Brooklyn Dodger team was one of the best ever.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by AngeloFan View Post

              He beat the s**t out of Robin Ventura. That make him the GOAT of the Rangers
              Oh yeah!

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              • #67
                Originally posted by AngeloFan View Post

                He beat the s**t out of Robin Ventura. That make him the GOAT of the Rangers
                And yesterday (August 4th) was the 29th anniversary of that glorious ass whooping. It should be State holiday!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Runnin' Cat View Post

                  While Nolan was good and had some counting stats due to longevity, he was an ERA+ of 112, which means he was 12% better than average. Good, bot nowhere near Gibson, Koufax, and others. That figure ties him for 304th all time.
                  Nolan also played on some mediocre to crappy teams... True the Mets, Angels, Astros, and Rangers had some decent seasons during his carrier. The Astros in the mid 80 to late 80's were probably the best of his playing days

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

                    The BEST modern day pitcher (from 80's to current) is Randy Johnson. No question about it.

                    The BEST of all time is Christy Mathewson (pitcher for the NY Giants).

                    Koufax is absolutely a top 10 of all times. That '55 Brooklyn Dodger team was one of the best ever.
                    I got to see Randy pitch once in the Kingdome. Just like for King Felix who has the last perfect game, he didn't get any run support. Randy threw the first ever no-hitter for the Mariners before he learned to control his fastball.

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                    • #70
                      I saw Nolan Ryan throw a 1-hitter in the Kingdome vs. the Mariners. We missed the first batter -- Harold Reynolds -- who singled. He was mowing everyone down after that, outfielders getting bored, sometimes they would move to the dugout after 2 outs, thinking it was 3. It was a clinic, he made some unreal hitters -- Edgar Martinez, A-Rod, Griffey, etc. -- look foolish. Right when they thought they were ready to crush his heater, he'd throw a slow curve and they'd be way ahead of it. It was remarkable, glad I got to see it.

                      My friend saw Nolan's last game ever in the dome, where he threw out his arm (some people said they even heard something pop).

                      Nolan had something like 6 no hitters and here's what's remarkable: 63 games where he allowed 3 runs or less. He also had 20+ 1-hitters.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by tsull View Post
                        I saw Nolan Ryan throw a 1-hitter in the Kingdome vs. the Mariners. We missed the first batter -- Harold Reynolds -- who singled. He was mowing everyone down after that, outfielders getting bored, sometimes they would move to the dugout after 2 outs, thinking it was 3. It was a clinic, he made some unreal hitters -- Edgar Martinez, A-Rod, Griffey, etc. -- look foolish. Right when they thought they were ready to crush his heater, he'd throw a slow curve and they'd be way ahead of it. It was remarkable, glad I got to see it.

                        My friend saw Nolan's last game ever in the dome, where he threw out his arm (some people said they even heard something pop).

                        Nolan had something like 6 no hitters and here's what's remarkable: 63 games where he allowed 3 runs or less. He also had 20+ 1-hitters.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                          Nolan Ryan was great but no Sandy Koufax. He had a lot of walks and never won a Cy Young.
                          Exactly. I was a Yankee fan growing up. Yankees, Yankees, Yankees!!! However, watching Koufax pitch a game was mesmerizing. Fastball, curve, slider, off speed, fastball. On the corners. Up and tight. Down and low. Just a great pitcher who set up batters with a fastball always under control. His fastball had movement. A lot of movement. Movement he controlled.

                          The best pitcher I ever watched.

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                          • #73
                            This has what to do with LSC Media Day? Another Diabetes thread. Oh Joy! Are there no Moderators at all?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by frutedog View Post
                              This has what to do with LSC Media Day? Another Diabetes thread. Oh Joy! Are there no Moderators at all?
                              *shrug* It's the offseason still.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

                                Records are made to be beat. It will happen.
                                Not a chance, he has two that will never be broken - 7no-no's and 5,714 K's.
                                The Great White Buffalo has Returned

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