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Originally posted by vikingfaithful View Post
Your argument that Augustana has small enrollment and would have a tight budget are legitimate, although non-scholarship FCS football would free up some funds. If you saw Augustana's facilities they are better than some of the Summit leagues members and are excellent for D2. Augie has a history of very good attendance and would certainly grow with D1 status. The point is mute as the Vikings have not been invited to the Summit league. The Summit has a history of being in flux as schools look for better leagues such as Denver or WIU looking to go D2, so there may be opportunities in the future. As for now Augie is fortunate to be in the NSIC a top D2 league, with exciting rivals.
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Originally posted by Tech Boys View Post
If going non-scholarship FCS means joining the Pioneer Football League, I'm not sure it's worth it. The money you're not spending on scholarships will then be spent on flying a football team to every league game except for Drake with almost all those flights being followed by a bus trip to a different town. Doing it as an independent might be a little better financially but you'll be playing most games with an arm tied behind your back.
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Originally posted by Inkblot View Post
Doesn't the PFL pay for travel for its members?
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Originally posted by vikingfaithful View Post
Your argument that Augustana has small enrollment and would have a tight budget are legitimate, although non-scholarship FCS football would free up some funds. If you saw Augustana's facilities they are better than some of the Summit leagues members and are excellent for D2. Augie has a history of very good attendance and would certainly grow with D1 status. The point is mute as the Vikings have not been invited to the Summit league. The Summit has a history of being in flux as schools look for better leagues such as Denver or WIU looking to go D2, so there may be opportunities in the future. As for now Augie is fortunate to be in the NSIC a top D2 league, with exciting rivals.
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Tech,
Augie is looking for a seat at the table with their former peers..South Dakota State, USD, NDSU, and UND. To an extent, there's a feeling they've been left behind by their old foes..as a smaller school. This decision to pursue D1 is a hoops-based decision as the Summit League and it's Tournament is a big deal in the Dakotas and gets attendance that's better than most non power 5 conferences. Augie has facilities that are better than most they get compared to in D1, as mentioned. The Vikings have also won a natty in both baseball and mens hoops in the last 5 years, which is impressive..along with making the football playoffs 2x during that window as well.
If there wasn't SDSU and NDSU....and others in the Summit getting the headlines and main exposure in the Dakotas....I think Augie would be content in D2. Being in a capable market like Sioux Falls should help them quite a bit and I fully expect them to get in within 1-2 years. To some extent this almost feels like the Summit league (who's now located in Sioux Falls) didn't want to make it look like Augie bought their way or got preferential treatment given their powerful local connections. I really think this is a temporary setback. The COVID situation and the inability for all parties to see Augie first-hand, didn't help.
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Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View PostTech,
Augie is looking for a seat at the table with their former peers..South Dakota State, USD, NDSU, and UND. To an extent, there's a feeling they've been left behind by their old foes..as a smaller school. This decision to pursue D1 is a hoops-based decision as the Summit League and it's Tournament is a big deal in the Dakotas and gets attendance that's better than most non power 5 conferences. Augie has facilities that are better than most they get compared to in D1, as mentioned. The Vikings have also won a natty in both baseball and mens hoops in the last 5 years, which is impressive..along with making the football playoffs 2x during that window as well.
If there wasn't SDSU and NDSU....and others in the Summit getting the headlines and main exposure in the Dakotas....I think Augie would be content in D2. Being in a capable market like Sioux Falls should help them quite a bit and I fully expect them to get in within 1-2 years. To some extent this almost feels like the Summit league (who's now located in Sioux Falls) didn't want to make it look like Augie bought their way or got preferential treatment given their powerful local connections. I really think this is a temporary setback. The COVID situation and the inability for all parties to see Augie first-hand, didn't help.
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Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View PostTech,
Augie is looking for a seat at the table with their former peers..South Dakota State, USD, NDSU, and UND. To an extent, there's a feeling they've been left behind by their old foes..as a smaller school. This decision to pursue D1 is a hoops-based decision as the Summit League and it's Tournament is a big deal in the Dakotas and gets attendance that's better than most non power 5 conferences. Augie has facilities that are better than most they get compared to in D1, as mentioned. The Vikings have also won a natty in both baseball and mens hoops in the last 5 years, which is impressive..along with making the football playoffs 2x during that window as well.
If there wasn't SDSU and NDSU....and others in the Summit getting the headlines and main exposure in the Dakotas....I think Augie would be content in D2. Being in a capable market like Sioux Falls should help them quite a bit and I fully expect them to get in within 1-2 years. To some extent this almost feels like the Summit league (who's now located in Sioux Falls) didn't want to make it look like Augie bought their way or got preferential treatment given their powerful local connections. I really think this is a temporary setback. The COVID situation and the inability for all parties to see Augie first-hand, didn't help.
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Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View PostTech,
Augie is looking for a seat at the table with their former peers..South Dakota State, USD, NDSU, and UND. To an extent, there's a feeling they've been left behind by their old foes..as a smaller school. This decision to pursue D1 is a hoops-based decision as the Summit League and it's Tournament is a big deal in the Dakotas and gets attendance that's better than most non power 5 conferences. Augie has facilities that are better than most they get compared to in D1, as mentioned. The Vikings have also won a natty in both baseball and mens hoops in the last 5 years, which is impressive..along with making the football playoffs 2x during that window as well.
If there wasn't SDSU and NDSU....and others in the Summit getting the headlines and main exposure in the Dakotas....I think Augie would be content in D2. Being in a capable market like Sioux Falls should help them quite a bit and I fully expect them to get in within 1-2 years. To some extent this almost feels like the Summit league (who's now located in Sioux Falls) didn't want to make it look like Augie bought their way or got preferential treatment given their powerful local connections. I really think this is a temporary setback. The COVID situation and the inability for all parties to see Augie first-hand, didn't help.
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Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View PostThe Vikings have also won a natty in both baseball and mens hoops in the last 5 years, which is impressive..along with making the football playoffs 2x during that window as well.
I'm excited for D1 baseball to come to Sioux Falls myself, although the Gophers haven't traveled to South Dakota State in a few years.
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Originally posted by wsuguy87 View Post
Yeah, because Augie getting preferential treatment would be such a new concept. :) Sorry. I can't help the fact I think I'm funny.
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Originally posted by Inkblot View Post
Doesn't the PFL pay for travel for its members?
Comparing PFL travel costs to scholarship expenses at $40k per year private colleges is ridiculous. The entire annual budget for a PFL program is $1M. Do the math on 63 equvalencies at Davidson. Good Lord...Last edited by Lurkingdog; 06-07-2020, 01:29 PM.
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Does anyone think Augustana would go D-I if they were allowed to move up as an independent?
In a time of changing/waiving NCAA classification rules, it seems like Augie might want to ask for a waiver of the rule requiring a conference invitation to move up.
I see that Wright State recently dropped three sports, and is now asking for a waiver to stay in D-I. If they get a waiver for a classification rule, so should Augustana.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...9qZw2gAEinABI/
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Originally posted by Lurkingdog View PostDoes anyone think Augustana would go D-I if they were allowed to move up as an independent?
In a time of changing/waiving NCAA classification rules, it seems like Augie might want to ask for a waiver of the rule requiring a conference invitation to move up.
I see that Wright State recently dropped three sports, and is now asking for a waiver to stay in D-I. If they get a waiver for a classification rule, so should Augustana.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...9qZw2gAEinABI/
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