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Originally posted by laker View PostUpper Iowa (and St Cloud) are in the GLIAC for men's soccer. Someone could figure out the mileage for UIU to the GLVC compared to the NSIC- I would guess that it might be shorter- I just don't know how much. I could see it happen.
UIU travel times/distances to current GLVC schools:
GLVC Football Schools
Indianapolis: 458 mi; 7 hr
McKendree: 376 mi; 6 hr
Missouri S&T: 393 mi; 6 hr 45 min
Quincy: 224 mi; 3 hr 45 min
Truman State: 251 mi; 4 hr 20 min
Southwest Baptist: 448 mi; 7 hr 30 min
William Jewell: 344 mi; 5 hr 30 min
GLVC Non-Football Schools
Drury: 465 mi; 7 hr 45 min
Illinois-Springfield: 318 mi; 5 hr
Lewis: 279 mi; 4 hr 45 min
Maryville: 336 mi; 5 hr 30 min
Missouri-St Louis: 342 mi; 5 hr 30 min
Rockhurst: 363 mi; 6 hr
UIU Travel Times/distances to current NSIC schools:
Southern Division:
Augustana: 310 mi; 5 hr
Concordia-St Paul: 186 mi; 3 hr 45 min
Minnesota State-Mankato: 187 mi; 3 hr 15 min
Sioux Falls: 309 mi; 5 hr
Southwest Minnesota: 308 mi; 5 hr 15 min
Wayne State (Neb.): 306 mi; 5 hr 15 min
Winona State: 100 mi; 2 hr 5 min
Northern Division:
Bemidji State: 444 mi; 7 hr 15 min
Mary: 623 mi; 10 hr
Minnesota-Crookston (non-football): 518 mi; 8 hr 15 min
Minnesota-Duluth: 335 mi; 5 hr 30 min
Minnesota State-Moorhead: 425 mi; 7 hr
Minot State: 692 mi; 11 hr 15 min
Northern State: 502 mi; 7 hr 45 min
St Cloud State (non-football): 256 mi; 4 hr 30 min
Mileage wise, it's almost a wash between the average road trip in the GLVC and the averages in the NSIC:
Average travel distance from UIU to all GLVC schools: 353.6 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to GLVC football schools: 356.3 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to GLVC non-football schools: 350.5 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to all NSIC schools: 366.7 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to NSIC Southern Division football schools*: 253.3 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to NSIC Southern Division schools (with Concordia-St Paul): 243.7 miles
* Concordia-St Paul competes in the NSIC North for football and NSIC South in most other sportsCal U (Pa.) Class of 2014
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So this move doesn't seem to be necessarily about the travel. There are 3 NSIC teams closer than any GLVC. Travel within the South is much better than the GLVC in total. Yes, UIU gets to avoid the long trips to Mary and Minot but those are not every year. Is this because there are more sports offered in the GLVC? Correct me if I'm incorrect, but on the whole I think the NSIC has a higher level of competition than the GLVC. I'd be interested to hear the reasons for a possible move.
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Originally posted by Thunder View PostSo this move doesn't seem to be necessarily about the travel. There are 3 NSIC teams closer than any GLVC. Travel within the South is much better than the GLVC in total. Yes, UIU gets to avoid the long trips to Mary and Minot but those are not every year. Is this because there are more sports offered in the GLVC? Correct me if I'm incorrect, but on the whole I think the NSIC has a higher level of competition than the GLVC. I'd be interested to hear the reasons for a possible move.Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014
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Does anyone know why UIU moved up to D2 in the first place? They already had a conference that was close geographically in D3. The only thing that I can think of was to be the only D2 school in the state of Iowa. Maybe some Peacock fan can fill us in.
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Originally posted by laker View PostDoes anyone know why UIU moved up to D2 in the first place? They already had a conference that was close geographically in D3. The only thing that I can think of was to be the only D2 school in the state of Iowa. Maybe some Peacock fan can fill us in.
There were concerns a couple of decades ago that three of the then-IIAC members weren't doing their best to keep up with the rest of the league (not with one specific school, mind you, vis-a-vis the MIAC) in terms of the resources that they were putting into athletics. Two of the three walked away from the IIAC -- William Penn went to the NAIA, and Upper Iowa went to D2 -- and the third, Dubuque, took the suggestion to heart and beefed up its support of athletics to the point where it became competitive across the board. This is what I've been told by people within the league.
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Originally posted by laker View PostDoes anyone know why UIU moved up to D2 in the first place? They already had a conference that was close geographically in D3. The only thing that I can think of was to be the only D2 school in the state of Iowa. Maybe some Peacock fan can fill us in.
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Originally posted by Thunder View PostSo this move doesn't seem to be necessarily about the travel. There are 3 NSIC teams closer than any GLVC. Travel within the South is much better than the GLVC in total. Yes, UIU gets to avoid the long trips to Mary and Minot but those are not every year. Is this because there are more sports offered in the GLVC? Correct me if I'm incorrect, but on the whole I think the NSIC has a higher level of competition than the GLVC. I'd be interested to hear the reasons for a possible move.
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Originally posted by 34blast View PostUIU is in the middle of nowhere and is expensive. It can’t be easy to compete
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Originally posted by 34blast View PostUIU is in the middle of nowhere and is expensive. It can’t be easy to compete
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Originally posted by Peacock View Post
I think it's just a matter of most of those schools are more of the same profile as UIU. Will help competition wise - we have a very good v-ball team, but will always be middle of pack in NSIC, football had some good years under Shea, but 6-5 was about as good as we were going to get even with some very good teams. Wrestling and men's basketball have competed very well and finished high in NSIC and would do same. The other sports would benefit as well from the move. Winning helps with recruiting, retainment, and overall mood on campus. A lot of those schools are private as well and same in terms of facilities and size.
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