The GLVC offers every team sport Upper Iowa has. UIU men's soccer and women's lacrosse compete in the GLIAC.
Interesting to note that Jamestown also has men's soccer, so they'd need a home if they go D2.
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So this move doesn't seem to be necessarily about the travel. There are 3 NSIC teams closer than any GLVC. Travel within the South is much better than the GLVC in total. Yes, UIU gets to avoid the long trips to Mary and Minot but those are not every year. Is this because there are more sports offered in the GLVC? Correct me if I'm incorrect, but on the whole I think the NSIC has a higher level of competition than the GLVC. I'd be interested to hear the reasons for a possible move.
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Originally posted by laker View PostUpper Iowa (and St Cloud) are in the GLIAC for men's soccer. Someone could figure out the mileage for UIU to the GLVC compared to the NSIC- I would guess that it might be shorter- I just don't know how much. I could see it happen.
UIU travel times/distances to current GLVC schools:
GLVC Football Schools
Indianapolis: 458 mi; 7 hr
McKendree: 376 mi; 6 hr
Missouri S&T: 393 mi; 6 hr 45 min
Quincy: 224 mi; 3 hr 45 min
Truman State: 251 mi; 4 hr 20 min
Southwest Baptist: 448 mi; 7 hr 30 min
William Jewell: 344 mi; 5 hr 30 min
GLVC Non-Football Schools
Drury: 465 mi; 7 hr 45 min
Illinois-Springfield: 318 mi; 5 hr
Lewis: 279 mi; 4 hr 45 min
Maryville: 336 mi; 5 hr 30 min
Missouri-St Louis: 342 mi; 5 hr 30 min
Rockhurst: 363 mi; 6 hr
UIU Travel Times/distances to current NSIC schools:
Southern Division:
Augustana: 310 mi; 5 hr
Concordia-St Paul: 186 mi; 3 hr 45 min
Minnesota State-Mankato: 187 mi; 3 hr 15 min
Sioux Falls: 309 mi; 5 hr
Southwest Minnesota: 308 mi; 5 hr 15 min
Wayne State (Neb.): 306 mi; 5 hr 15 min
Winona State: 100 mi; 2 hr 5 min
Northern Division:
Bemidji State: 444 mi; 7 hr 15 min
Mary: 623 mi; 10 hr
Minnesota-Crookston (non-football): 518 mi; 8 hr 15 min
Minnesota-Duluth: 335 mi; 5 hr 30 min
Minnesota State-Moorhead: 425 mi; 7 hr
Minot State: 692 mi; 11 hr 15 min
Northern State: 502 mi; 7 hr 45 min
St Cloud State (non-football): 256 mi; 4 hr 30 min
Mileage wise, it's almost a wash between the average road trip in the GLVC and the averages in the NSIC:
Average travel distance from UIU to all GLVC schools: 353.6 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to GLVC football schools: 356.3 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to GLVC non-football schools: 350.5 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to all NSIC schools: 366.7 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to NSIC Southern Division football schools*: 253.3 miles
Average travel distance from UIU to NSIC Southern Division schools (with Concordia-St Paul): 243.7 miles
* Concordia-St Paul competes in the NSIC North for football and NSIC South in most other sports
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Originally posted by Moorhead123 View Post
Both Jamestown and Dakota state are clear speculation. One of those two may make the most sense if UIU leaves, but certainly no guarantees that either would make the jump.
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Originally posted by WPHB View PostIf I missed this, then please forgive. Is there a need to replace? Seems like a lot of teams in NSIC already and just as a thought exercise was wondering why replace. Obviously, it would lead to unbalanced divisions and hell for schedule makers, but seems doable. What am I missing?
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Originally posted by WPHB View PostIf I missed this, then please forgive. Is there a need to replace? Seems like a lot of teams in NSIC already and just as a thought exercise was wondering why replace. Obviously, it would lead to unbalanced divisions and hell for schedule makers, but seems doable. What am I missing?
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Originally posted by WPHB View PostIf I missed this, then please forgive. Is there a need to replace? Seems like a lot of teams in NSIC already and just as a thought exercise was wondering why replace. Obviously, it would lead to unbalanced divisions and hell for schedule makers, but seems doable. What am I missing?
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If I missed this, then please forgive. Is there a need to replace? Seems like a lot of teams in NSIC already and just as a thought exercise was wondering why replace. Obviously, it would lead to unbalanced divisions and hell for schedule makers, but seems doable. What am I missing?
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Upper Iowa (and St Cloud) are in the GLIAC for men's soccer. Someone could figure out the mileage for UIU to the GLVC compared to the NSIC- I would guess that it might be shorter- I just don't know how much. I could see it happen.
I would dismiss Dakota State even with the plans for great new facilities. Jamestown would make more sense but they haven't been setting the world on fire, at least in football, in the GPAC which is IMO the top conference in that sport in the NAIA.
Now Morningside would be great- top dog not only in the GPAC but also in the entire NAIA in football. They are already inside the NSIC footprint. I did talk at length about this with one of the Morningside coaches when I watched the Mavs practice in their stadium the night before they played at Wayne back in 2019. He told me that they were happy where they were, especially competing not just for a conference championship but a national one. Made sense.
Like Kearney, outside the footprint- Grand View. A long trip to Des Moines but they have built a great program.Last edited by laker; 11-02-2022, 08:12 AM.
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Here is what I've heard over the years..
UIU has shown interest in the GLVC before but word was in the past the GLVC wasn't offering. The GLVC makes more sense for UIU due to competitive level, proximity (at least a little better anyhow), and more peer schools seemingly in the GLVC. Since late 2021, I've been getting text messages and such about this idea..so it's not new.
Like some others have eluded to....other than the future facility plans for DSU, they don't seem ready for such a jump....or at least this soon. It's not like they've been wow in NAIA athletics. There's no question their future facilities look outstanding..no matter NAIA or D2.
Assuming there is a replacement need....Jamestown seems to be the most credible solution..as they've expressed potential interest and have schools up near them with Mary-Minot-Moorhead-Northern within a few hours each, etc. At face value they look a little more ready-right-now also.
A friend of mine said don't sleep on the Morningside idea. With a newer Athletic Director who might have ambitions above their current accomplishments in the NAIA.
I assume a Neb Kearney is a little too far away, being 3 hours past Wayne....creating a new geographic outpost. I'm guessing the league would much rather stay within the existing footprint.
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Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post
I think the latter is just speculation based on facilities upgrades. I'm not sure their AD is ready to make that jump.
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Originally posted by Moorhead123 View PostI have heard this rumor and also that Jamestown or Dakota State have been rumored as possible future replacement for UIU.
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This makes much more sense than an Assistant Coach who's telling his Girlfriend that they're dropping to D3 lol....hearing that 3rd hand. I figured that was B.S.
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I have heard this rumor and also that Jamestown or Dakota State have been rumored as possible future replacement for UIU.
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