Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[Purple Mav Man]

No, actually. I was not responding to you.

But my point is MSU would offer DI the equivalent of what UJ offers DII. The irony is some don't see that and are okay with the former and not the latter given how similar the moves are.

Some could say it's an apples-to-oranges comparison because MSU at least is one of the better DII schools, but their impact on DI will be similar to UJ's impact on DII.

And for the record - I'm not thrilled about UJ joining DII. I'd rather have them than Crookston, but there are 10 other schools I'd rather have than them.

Always hard to tell through writing. Makes sense, I’m one of the MSU fans that understands what the Mavs would be at the next level. Mediocre at best, and that doesn’t sound like a ton of fun.

[Millsy]

What if the comment had come from a fan of a different school? Would a fan of SMSU who thinks Crookston is out of place be too good for D2? I think your bias and whatever else toward/against MSU shows through often. And it did in this reply.

I’d guess the vast majority of fans on this board think Crookston is out of place. We can all think that if we want. And Crookston can stay in the NSIC/D2 if they want, as you say. Some people want to boot them. I am saying they are a high school (not just athletics-wise) masquerading as a 4-year university. Even the Crookston alum we’re fortunate to have on the board is able to be honest and real about.

I think your angst about Crookston being a four year school is geared towards the wrong people. I think your angst needs to be focused on the University of Minnesota Board of Regents and not the Crookston administration. When Crookston went from a two year school to a four year school, it was because the MN Board of Regents wanted a four year school in all corners of the State to serve the population of the State. They had Rochester, Morris and Duluth, elevating Crookston gave them that school in the Northwest. And one needs to remember, when you graduate from any of the U of MN schools, your diploma says University of Minnesota, not University of Minnesota at "insert city here". That does have some pull in the job market.

Now, that still doesn't help out the Crookston athletic programs.

[Purple Mav Man]

Fair point. It's just felt to me at times (maybe out of place) that multiple MSU fans have done a lot of grumbling over membership ever since joining the NSIC.

Regarding other schools? I guess I haven’t seen the same. Certainly many feel Crookston doesn’t belong, but as you’ve seen through the years, that is definitely not exclusive to MSU fans.

And of course now with Jamestown, but again, that is not exclusive to MSU fans. Seems you’re wanting that to be the case more than it really is?

Zimmy wants the Mavs to go D1, but not because he thinks MSU is better than the rest of the conference. From what I can gather, he just wants a D1 school to root for. Not looking down on other schools.

SuperCal shows up every once in a while and promotes a D1 move, but not because of the conference teams, or to bash them.

njmav1 would like to protect the hockey team with a potential D1 move.

Those are the 3 MSU fans on here that I can recall pumping D1. None of them are doing it because they think MSU is too good for the conference or the other schools. That part is made up.

[Purple Mav Man]

I think your angst about Crookston being a four year school is geared towards the wrong people. I think your angst needs to be focused on the University of Minnesota Board of Regents and not the Crookston administration. When Crookston went from a two year school to a four year school, it was because the MN Board of Regents wanted a four year school in all corners of the State to serve the population of the State. They had Rochester, Morris and Duluth, elevating Crookston gave them that school in the Northwest. And one needs to remember, when you graduate from any of the U of MN schools, your diploma says University of Minnesota, not University of Minnesota at "insert city here". That does have some pull in the job market.

Now, that still doesn't help out the Crookston athletic programs.

I definitely understand the political play that made Crookston a 4 year university. The sell job was what you mentioned above.

But you really don’t think Stanger can change Crookston back???

[SW_Mustang]

Always hard to tell through writing. Makes sense, I’m one of the MSU fans that understands what the Mavs would be at the next level. Mediocre at best, and that doesn’t sound like a ton of fun.

Right. You're not one of the ones on here that's super vocal about leaving - apologies for the confusion.

I really enjoyed my time at MSU and the sports was a big part of why - which is probably why I don't want to see them go.

And everyone is entitled to their opinion, obviously. Discussing opinions is fun though!

[SW_Mustang]

I think your angst about Crookston being a four year school is geared towards the wrong people. I think your angst needs to be focused on the University of Minnesota Board of Regents and not the Crookston administration. When Crookston went from a two year school to a four year school, it was because the MN Board of Regents wanted a four year school in all corners of the State to serve the population of the State. They had Rochester, Morris and Duluth, elevating Crookston gave them that school in the Northwest. And one needs to remember, when you graduate from any of the U of MN schools, your diploma says University of Minnesota, not University of Minnesota at "insert city here". That does have some pull in the job market.

Now, that still doesn't help out the Crookston athletic programs.

Minor point, but Crookston had Rochester beat by about 13 years. This is just me, but I also happen to believe Rochester was also a play to dump U of M alums into the Mayo system. Maybe they planted a seed to have a full university in SE MN, but it hasn't yet played out that way.

[Purple Mav Man]

Right. You're not one of the ones on here that's super vocal about leaving - apologies for the confusion.

I really enjoyed my time at MSU and the sports was a big part of why - which is probably why I don't want to see them go.

And everyone is entitled to their opinion, obviously. Discussing opinions is fun though!

No need for apologies, just making sure we’re on the same page. It makes the opinions better informed 🙂

Agree with the bolded 100%. My opinion is Jamestown shouldn’t be in the NSIC (at least not now). It is also that Crookston shouldn’t be a 4 year school. But it is not that MSU is too good for them. Ha

[Purple Mav Man]

How much time is the AD spending on athletics at crookston? AD should be working 50-60 hours a week, fundraising "Helgeson also owns and operates the Ness Cafe in her hometown of Erskine, Minn,"

“however much she wants”

[laker]

How much time is the AD spending on athletics at crookston? AD should be working 50-60 hours a week, fundraising "Helgeson also owns and operates the Ness Cafe in her hometown of Erskine, Minn,"

Gosh, I've actually stopped there. I think that was the place that one of my UND camp players was a waitress so I stopped the next year to give her a t-shirt. That must have been 20-25 years ago.

[Stanger86]

How much time is the AD spending on athletics at crookston? AD should be working 50-60 hours a week, fundraising "Helgeson also owns and operates the Ness Cafe in her hometown of Erskine, Minn,"

Oh she went to Win-E-Mac? That explains a lot actually.

[Purple Mav Man]

Jamestown vs Mary on Thursday. Who ya got??

[vikingfaithful]

Jamestown vs Mary on Thursday. Who ya got??

Mary in a beatdown, or fire another head. Mary' HC was not available for an interview with Witt, so he's busy coaching up the gang.

[MrMustang]

Always hard to tell through writing. Makes sense, I’m one of the MSU fans that understands what the Mavs would be at the next level. Mediocre at best, and that doesn’t sound like a ton of fun.

this is accurate

[CollegeFBGuy]

Pirates for the W

[oldyellaHer69]

Jamestown vs Mary on Thursday. Who ya got??

Jimmies 35 Marys 14 #OrangeCrush