Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[zimmy21]

Curious as to why Mankato would care about Cloud at all?

From my perspective, the NSIC bent the knee to SCSU and UMC by changing the rules for them. I doubt MSU orchestrated that at all...

I wonder if there are any meeting minutes that we can find when they talked about/voted on this topic

[SW_Mustang]

well, there was ZERO chance we were ever going to kick St. Cloud out -- especially from Mankato - so they get stuck Jamestown since they didn't lead the way on St. Cloud.

And I agree, both should have been kicked out with no football

Curious as to why Mankato would care about Cloud at all?

From my perspective, the NSIC bent the knee to SCSU and UMC by changing the rules for them. I doubt MSU orchestrated that at all...

[zimmy21]

I think MnSCU would have stepped in and not allowed the NSIC to kick them out, unfortunantely.

But had they done it, UMC would have went to the North Star and may have kept football then and saved that league.

St. Cloud -- who knows, zero leadership there.

So Mnscu says no, but they don't even have a majority of votes to make that decision. There are only 6 schools in the NSIC that are MNSCU. Seems unlikely that the 6 MNSCU schools can sway the other 10 schools.

[zimmy21]

Every college in the country is better run than St. Cloud.

My post was about St. Cloud and yet you somehow brought it back to SMSU. Cheers

Just searching through the forest of terrible takes that you put out as a reason to bring Jamestown in, and found the flashing neon sign that states the real reason.

[zimmy21]

Well Mankato administration was never going to be a leader and get rid of St. Cloud. Had they done so, things may have turned out different with Jamestown

I'm sorry, does the Mankato administration have absolute authority in the NSIC now? This is a conference leadership move that failed us. Not one schools administration, and I don't have any details as far as how MSU admins felt about SCSU being allowed to drop football.

My hope is they voiced their opinion that they shouldn't be allowed to, but if they didn't I will admit that disappoints me.

[MrMustang]

This is worthless hindsight, but what would have happened if league had the stones to say, "keep football or find a new conference" to SCSU and UMC.

I think MnSCU would have stepped in and not allowed the NSIC to kick them out, unfortunantely.

But had they done it, UMC would have went to the North Star and may have kept football then and saved that league.

St. Cloud -- who knows, zero leadership there.

[MrMustang]

Are they better run? Not sure about that.

Of course you are happy that Jamestown is in the league, without them the Mustangs were winless last year.

Every college in the country is better run than St. Cloud.

My post was about St. Cloud and yet you somehow brought it back to SMSU. Cheers

[MrMustang]

Nailed it!! I'd be just as happy as a 13 team league without any of them. Matter of fact cut another to make it 12 and we can go back to silo lol

Well Mankato administration was never going to be a leader and get rid of St. Cloud. Had they done so, things may have turned out different with Jamestown

[MrMustang]

In a perfect world we'd kick St. Cloud (and Crookston) out - and not let Jamestown in.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

well, there was ZERO chance we were ever going to kick St. Cloud out -- especially from Mankato - so they get stuck Jamestown since they didn't lead the way on St. Cloud.

And I agree, both should have been kicked out with no football

[SW_Mustang]

Good call, let it go the direction of the NCC instead! That's what all you Mavs are hoping for most I know, because that worked so well for them....

I know this is a big deal to you for some reason and it's causing you to react emotionally - that's fine. I don't have any sort of "hope" about a dystopian future. I just want the conference to have some discretion. I think that's the way most of us see it to varying degrees.

Also - if calling me a Mav is some kind of swipe, that's pretty pathetic lol.

[zimmy21]

This is worthless hindsight, but what would have happened if league had the stones to say, "keep football or find a new conference" to SCSU and UMC.

Cloud likely would have reached out to the Summit who had tried to pick them up earlier. If they said no, Cloud would have kept football and stayed.

Crookston would be NAIA or UMAC by now.

[vikingfaithful]

This is worthless hindsight, but what would have happened if league had the stones to say, "keep football or find a new conference" to SCSU and UMC.

[zimmy21]

Good call, let it go the direction of the NCC instead! That's what all you Mavs are hoping for most I know, because that worked so well for them....

Are we that concerned that 5 schools will get poached to D1 and a 6th go to NAIA? in the next 5 years?

Dang, if we are so afraid of the conference collapsing then we should just add in the whole GPAC, MiAC, and UMAC... Make it a 60 team Conference. We can play every team once in 5 years in football. God for we leave out the Juco schools too. Better hoard all the upper Midwest schools just in case

[Stanger86]

I don't mind the idea of adding a school - but the schools I want are more akin to a pipedream. The NSIC will never convince Morningside or St. John's to join. I rather we just keep it lean than adding schools that need a life raft.

I'm preaching to the choir here, I know - but I just don't want the conference to become a shelter for expelled GPAC schools or wherever the Jims came from.

Good call, let it go the direction of the NCC instead! That's what all you Mavs are hoping for most I know, because that worked so well for them....

[SW_Mustang]

Nailed it!! I'd be just as happy as a 13 team league without any of them. Matter of fact cut another to make it 12 and we can go back to silo lol

I don't mind the idea of adding a school - but the schools I want are more akin to a pipedream. The NSIC will never convince Morningside or St. John's to join. I rather we just keep it lean than adding schools that need a life raft.

I'm preaching to the choir here, I know - but I just don't want the conference to become a shelter for expelled GPAC schools or wherever the Jims came from.