Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[oldyellaHer69]

Jims can't add to the L column today, and that's just as good as a win.

Practice!

[debergfan]

*next week

I just hope Jamestown isn't charging admission to the games. That would send a message to everyone who doesn't want to pay... or something.

They have to build a cafeteria. Admission to games vs adding water polo team with 40 students.

I wonder why Jamestown received a D from Forbes? Anyone know?

[SW_Mustang]

Practice!

They're well on their way.

[SW_Mustang]

They have to build a cafeteria. Admission to games vs adding water polo team with 40 students.

I wonder why Jamestown received a D from Forbes? Anyone know?

I looked into it - Forbes assigned a methodology to measure post-COVID financial recovery, and UJ got the worst grade possible. Not the best answer but it's what I got.

What's wild is that UJ charges $22,000 in just tuition for undergrads and only has about 900 students. Niche says that over 60% are athletes too. Their degrees are worth an average of $60,000 annually.

That's one hell of a business model.

[Stanger86]

There is a reason why Georgia Tech is in the ACC and not the B10 or SEC. Both conferences don't want bottom feeders and markets with no value. The reason why Wyoming was ditched. You have to be selective.

So you supported adding Rutgers to the Big Ten due to the NJ/NY market?

[Dan Brookens]

I can't believe we're 186 pages into this thread and no one has mentioned that Shadoe Stevens is from Jamestown. Announcer for the Hollywood Squares and Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson!

[Purple Mav Man]

I can't believe we're 186 pages into this thread and no one has mentioned that Shadoe Stevens is from Jamestown. Announcer for the Hollywood Squares and Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson!

And American top 40 countdown Sundays in the 80s. That was must listen for grade school PMM

[SW_Mustang]

I looked through the alumni list on the Wikipedia page a couple times and didn't see him - I did see Ron Erhardt though, he won 21 games as HC of the Patriots. That's kinda something.

[Purple Mav Man]

So you supported adding Rutgers to the Big Ten due to the NJ/NY market?

Why not??

“I think the worst thing you can do as a conference is to be restrictive about which programs can or cannot join. I don't eliminate any program based on enrollment, town population, on field success, or scholarship money, unless you're willing to pare down the current conference teams along with it.”

In all seriousness, I thought adding Rutgers (and Maryland) was silly. Sorry for jumping in, you weren’t asking me 🙂

[SW_Mustang]

Funny thing is - Rutgers (and Maryland) still had to be vetted to some degree to join the Big10, unlike Jamestown and the NSIC.

Obviously, it was still a bad move in a competitive sense, but at least the Big10 wasn't handing out invites to random schools.

[vikingfaithful]

The bloated 18 team big 10 is so greedy with schools from coast to coast. They are trying to manipulate the playoffs for their financial benefit of course. I rue the day the venerable PAC 12 broke up. The sec is no better like the big, whispering into the ear's revenue better over here.

[IceBoxDragon]

The Big Ten's recent expansion was all media driven I think. The earlier expansions, picking up Penn State and Nebraska, were more about quality I think, considering they are both high profile programs, and Pennsylvania and Nebraska are at least Midwest/Big Ten adjacent. Stretching to the coasts, though, was extending the media map.

The Big Ten now has 4 of the top 5 media markets, and 11 of the top 25.
No. 1 New York City - Rutgers
No. 2 Los Angeles - USC, UCLA
No. 3 Chicago - Illinois, Northwestern
No. 5 Philadelphia - Penn State
No. 8 Washington DC - Maryland
No. 13 Seattle - Washington
No. 14 Detroit - Michigan, Michigan State
No. 16 Twin Cities - Minnesota
No. 19 Cleveland - Ohio State
No. 23 Portland - Oregon
No. 25 Indianapolis - Indiana, Purdue

At the NSIC level, it feels like things just came down to timing and needs. Jamestown wanted to go D2, Upper Iowa was leaving, NSIC would want a school to replace them, seems like things just rolled out from there.

[34blast]

Traded one private school bad at athletics for another one. Jamestown gets the nod as a city over Fayettnam.

[MrMustang]

I couldn't care less about Madison. Minot is way to big for you, unless you suddenly like towns bigger than Marshall.

I like Minot quite a bit. Mankato is too big though.

[MrMustang]

And American top 40 countdown Sundays in the 80s. That was must listen for grade school PMM

must listen. great memory